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Fonoti was a King but is long gone! We have the Tamaaigas of today who reprasent a long line of Royalty aswell so these are the kings of today! There u go! Case closed! wink.gif




You know how the system goes, its father to son or any of the direct family to be bestowed the title and inheritance whatever their maybe from the wish of that person like for example King Fonoti's wish of his inheritance with his brother Tole'afoa with Tumua at present as follows:

So Toleafoa came and sat down by the in-between posts at the rear. Again the king spoke: Come, that I may determine our affairs so that your children and mine will fare well.
The following were the words of Fonoti: "The four high titles be for me and my children", "while the title Tonumaipea be for you and your children, so that you will lead the aumaga. Therefore the aumaga shall be known to be sanctified. And because you have the title Tonumaipea, you shall sit on a mat, and only you alone shall sit outside on a mat, and the others of the aumaga shall be forbidden to sit down on a mat. When the kava chewing is over, all shall stand up with their kava bits and put them in the kava bowl; but for your kava bit someone else shall rise and take it there. Then let the kava bowl be brought and placed before you. If no king is announced by the tumua, you are to be Tuiaana aveau malaga and the words of the aualuma are to point to you. Your aualuma is to be cared for by Leulumoega, and Fasitootai and Fasitoouta are to protect them".

Apparently from Fonoti's kingship is the following well known fa'asamoa alaga'upu: O Samoa ua uma ona totofi..! And the fa'asamoa based from then and was no more wars etc till the time time of tama-a-aiga with the settlers.


oh, and not mentioned so many other tofigas by Fonoti for another example the mark of disignation "Va'a o Fonoti" (Fonoti's ship) to call his own and rewarded the right to districts and chiefs to call themselves Va'a o Fonoti, and also have it stated in the All Fa'alupega of Samoa, and such such honours and privileges still honuored by Samoa and the faasamoa to this day.

To named another is granted Ulualofaiga complete power over Fagaloa District and in addition Fonoti gave Ulualofaiga the village of Amanave in Tutuila. This village is controlled in this manner right down to the present day and the authority as recognised by the American Government! Now for just the ones as mentioned from the rest of so many other tofigas of Fonoti it is the mark of distinction of his real Kingdom that King Fonoti Tupu Tafa'ifa was able to issue such decrees and appointments (tofigas) which were looked upon as dogmas.


And one more thing, King Fonoti aint gone or long gone, unless all his mark of designation be wiped off by someone like your so call other later Kings then you be right hes gone.. but as long as those marks by Fonoti still up there and honoured everywhere Fonoti's Kinghsip still lives, and sorry if disappoint anyone those marks by Fonoti will be forever! i dont think it can be changed. like i said the Samoans our ancestors back then who know better then our generations agreed to Fonoti's with their decisions.. Samoa ua uma ona totofi..! they made that very clear and confirmed through generations to date.




Im slowly gettin the impression that ur tryin 2 say the Tamaaigaz are nobodys??? Do u not realise they come from a long line of royalty aswell? I think ur head is too much wrapped around Fonoti that u dont want 2 listen or even accept that the Tamaaigas play a big part in Samoan History & the present! Thats why 2me i reckon they all Kings!!!


Not at all its just correcting explaining what is what... of knowledge by some from their comments.. hey there one said Fonoti is long gone.. so i explain why i think its not. so dont try and twist around the intentions of my comment and this post by saying your nonsense

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Well as far as i'm concerned we have a king now & that is all to it.Whatever happens in the past should stay in the past,because of all the corruptions in the past that has completely changed all of the titles in the future.

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Well as far as i'm concerned we have a king now & that is all to it.Whatever happens in the past should stay in the past,because of all the corruptions in the past that has completely changed all of the titles in the future.




ok rest the case now but just want to say one thing thou to your comment and that my understanding their was no corruption in the time i'm talking about, everything was strictly cultural back then. i over and out. fa!

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SORRY TO INFORM YOU ... BUT WE DONT HAVE A KING NOW ....WE DO HAVE A HEAD OF STATE. ..

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e Tupu uma tagata i Samoa, ae e iai Tupu ua uma ona tofia e le Atua soifua.

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SORRY TO INFORM YOU ... BUT WE DONT HAVE A KING NOW ....WE DO HAVE A HEAD OF STATE. ..






My friend! Tupua Tamasese is Tuiatua!....THAT MAKES HIM A KING!!
His Tupua makes him a Tamaaiga!
His TUIATUA makes him a King!
And your post makes you a VALE!!

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SORRY TO INFORM YOU ... BUT WE DONT HAVE A KING NOW ....WE DO HAVE A HEAD OF STATE. ..






My friend! Tupua Tamasese is Tuiatua!....THAT MAKES HIM A KING!!
His Tupua makes him a Tamaaiga!
His TUIATUA makes him a King!
And your post makes you a VALE!!


I totally agree! Da same goes 2 Malietoa, Tuimalealiifano & Mataafa!!! ONE LUV!!!

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SORRY TO INFORM YOU ... BUT WE DONT HAVE A KING NOW ....WE DO HAVE A HEAD OF STATE. ..






My friend! Tupua Tamasese is Tuiatua!....THAT MAKES HIM A KING!!
His Tupua makes him a Tamaaiga!
His TUIATUA makes him a King!
And your post makes you a VALE!!


I totally agree! Da same goes 2 Malietoa, Tuimalealiifano & Mataafa!!! ONE LUV!!!


Lets stay with the correct info for the sake of confusion. There is four Tamaaaiga appointed deputy council of state; the only reason why Tupua is different is because of the Tuiatua title which is a Papa title does make him a King, in Atua.

Keep it simple and correct the better for everyone.

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Yep you tell them

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Just being random but if thats the case then Tuimalealiifano would be in the same level because he holds the Tuiaana Title. Alofas.

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Just being random but if thats the case then Tuimalealiifano would be in the same level because he holds the Tuiaana Title. Alofas.






yes, you are correct, he is a Tamaaiga because of his title, Tuimaleali'ifano and he is also a king because of his TuiA'ana title.Alofaz 2 U 2.3

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Tru dat! Daz 4 real! Much Respect 2 da Tama'aigaz & durr famleez!!!

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Just being random but if thats the case then Tuimalealiifano would be in the same level because he holds the Tuiaana Title. Alofas.




Tuimalealiifano is Tama-a-aiga. I also hear they just fa'alagi the Papa title Tui-A'ana to Tuimalealiifano, and if there was a cultural ceremony bestowed the Papa title then thats correct, Tuimalealiifano is a King in A'ana. I know and have documents when the four tama-a-aiga appointed as HOS that there is no mentioned or discussing of the Papa titles. The only time i know of the Papa titles was discussed and mentioned again since then is sometime in the 1980's with current Tupua Tamasese Efi with Papa title Tui-Atua. But full respect to the Tui-Atua and the Tui-A'ana Papa titles.. not to mentioned the Gatoaitele and Vaetamasoalii.

Thank you

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The following are statements written in the history book Lagaga by Malama Meleisea.
Malama Meleisea: Samoan Historian
Position: Director, UNESCO Kabul Office
Organization: UNESCO

The following information in Samoa history book: Lagaga, by Malama Meleisea.

COLONIAL PERIOD IN SAMOA: BY PALAGI CUSTOMS, NOT SAMOAN CUSTOMS..

There are number of points of view about the papa Titles and the office of Tafaifa in the history of Samoa prior to 1830. While it is agreed that Salamasina was the first Tafaifa there is no agreement as to whether the Tafaifa was held continuously after that time or whether it was not held again until the 1800s. The four titles Had been passed down in the Sa Tupua descent line since the time of Salamasina. This tradition says that Iamafana in his mavaega (his dying testament) gave the titles to Malietoa Vainuupo in 1802. Malietoa received the Gatoaitele and Tamasoalii titles from Afega and Safata. Malietoa Vainuupo won the titles Tuiaana and Tuiatua after Tamafaiga was killed in 1829 which made him Tafaifa.

By the late 1880s it had become clear to the Samoans that whichever party was to be recognized as the Malo must control the succession to the throne. The Papa titles of the Tafaifa could be claimed as a prize in war, but national recognition of the titular supremacy signified by the tafaifa required all four titles to be bestowed by the Fale-Upolu (Group of tulafale, in this case Tumua and Alataua) of Atua, Aana and Tuamasaga with a high degree of consensus and common interest. The Samoan conception of a supreme ruler or King. (O le Tupu) referred to the head of a victorious party which ruled by conquest. Such a leadership required the maintenance of control by force, an impossible goal in Samoa since the 1860s, when European gun boats had given the settlers a balance of power they could exercise to bring down any Samoan Malo.

The massive land claims being made by the settlers might have united the Samoans had demands been made by a single foreign group, but the problem was that resolution of conflicting land claims would satisfy one interest group, but not another. The same was true of the Samoans any resolution of claims in favour of a particular foreign interest group would mean that some Samoans would lose great amounts of land while others would have their land rights upheld. Therefore the individual interests of each nuu and sub-district, and of individual matai in many cases, became linked to the support of particular settler factions.

Having won the latest war and seen their German allies deport Malietoa, Tamaseses supporters declared him tupu and tafaifa (although he held only one of the papa, Tuiaana). The declaration was interpreted by Samoans and settlers alike as a declaration of German supremacy in Samoa, and opposition to it coalesced around Tuiatua Mataafa Iosefo. In the absence of Malietoa Laupepa, some of the branches of the Sa-Malietoa had conferred the Malietoa title upon Mataafa; thus his network of family connections covered most districts in Samoa. Mataafas one political liability was that he was Roman Catholic in a predominantly Protestant land. However, as a focus for anti-German feeling, he received supporters. Once again the elaborate political negotiation to raise any army began.

War broke out in 1888 but unlike previous wars, settlers and their property were targets on both sides. The consuls sent for naval reinforcements and in 1889 seven warships were anchored off Apia. Their involvement was cut short by a hurricane which sent six of the ships, three Americans and three German, to the bottom of the sea with a loss of 155 foreign lives. Mataafas side won the war but, ironically, at the very time he was being hailed as tupu by most of Samoa, the three powers declared Malietoa Laupepa to be King by the terms of the Berlin Act to which all three were signatories. The decision was foolish because it took no account of the realities of the situation in Samoa. The Germans would not accept Mataafa because he had brought about the defeat of their supporters. The British and Americans took the view that Tamasese was a German puppet. Malietoa was a compromise choice for the three powers but not for the Samoans. When he was brought back to Samoa in 1889, he at first recognized the Mataafa victory and his right to be tupu. The condominium established by the Berlin Act had not been put into effect but Malietoa was soon persuaded to accept the office that the foreign powers offered him by their recognition on paper. The problem was to obtain Samoan acknowledgment of his right to be King. Accordingly Malietoas supporters began to raise any army so as to make his government legitimate by defeating Mataafa in war.

The case for Malietoa asserted that he held the four papa titles and was tafaifa, Lauaki Namaluaulu Mamoe of Safotulafai in Savaii, asserted that Malietoa had no such recognition. He claimed that Malietoa held none of the titles, not even that of Malietoa, since none had been bestowed by Samoan custom. In this contention Lauaki was supported by the Orators of Malie and Manono.

Then another tradition says that from 1810 the most powerful chief was Tamafaiga of Manono who gave himself the title as Tupu o Salafai. According to this tradition, the only person to hold the Tafaifa since Salamasina was Fonoti who was known as Fonoti the King!

In 1912, One of the changes, the German administration had apparently achieved its long-term objectives of understanding the traditional forces in Samoa politics, while maintaining a semblance of local participation in government. There was no more TUPU, nor even ALII SILI, but the two Fautua were appointed. Tumua and Pule were for a time silenced, all decisions on matters affecting lands and titles were under the control of the Governor. To complete the process, the Faalupega for all Samoa was revised. The Faalupega which had been nationally accepted from at least the late 19th century (and probably for much longer than that) was as follows:

Tulouna a Tumua ma Pule,
Tulouna a Ituau ma Alataua,
Tulouna a Aiga-i-le-Tai,
Ma le Vaa-o-Fonoti.

This Faalupega firstly recognized the authority and identity of principal districts of Samoa through their spokesmen Tumua ma Pule, Ituau ma Alataua, Aiga I le Tai, ma le Vaa o Fonoti and the highest titles which were bestowed by these groups. It concludes with the recognition of the great maximal descent groups of Samoa and their sons who had been chosen to hold the highest titles.

The new Faalupega of German Samoa apparently required for Malietoa Tanunafili and Tupua Tamasese to be sworn on oath and to change this Samoas historical Faalupega to the new faalupega as follows:

Tulouna a lana Maiesitete le Kaisa o le tupu mamalu o lo tatou malo kasialika aoao.
Tulouna a lana afioga le kovana kasialika o le sui o le kaisa I Samoa nei.
Susu mai Malietoa, Afio mai Tupua
Ua faamanatuiana ai aiga e lua I o oulua tofiga Kasialika o le Fautua.
Tulouna a le vasega a Faipule Kasialika o e lagolago malosi I le Malo.
Afifio mai le nofo a vasega o tofiga Kasialika o e usu fita I le tautua I le malo.

New Zealand took over Samoa demanded there original identity all Samoa faalupega. And added tama-a-aiga to it as mark to all the palagi customs and associates carry on about Samoa Kingship that they aint Kings they only tama-a-aiga. Current All Samoa Faalupega as follows:

Tulouna a Tumua ma Pule,
Tulouna a Ituau ma Alataua,
Tulouna a Aiga-i-le-Tai,
Ma le Vaa-o-Fonoti,
(addition) Tulouna a Tama ma a latou aiga
Poo aiga ma a latou tama.

Theres the palagi Samoa history on Kingship, and we also have our own traditional cultural Samoan history on Kinghsip.. its all ups to you which history do you like to live your life by, truth or lies(faulse) its all good cause the real kinghsip family do not owe noone anything but give to what it is today, our culture, our language, our land and the rest..






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SALAMASINA WAS DA FIRST KING EVENTHOU SHE WAS A FEMALE BT SHE WAS DA FIRST PERSON TO SIT ON DA THRONE...

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SALAMASINA WAS DA FIRST KING EVENTHOU SHE WAS A FEMALE BT SHE WAS DA FIRST PERSON TO SIT ON DA THRONE...






Yes she was!....The first Tupu Tafa'ifa of Samoa was a woman!
In her, was the blood of lofty families and a lineage that reached imminent Kings.
Some of the most famous characters in our rich history were woman, from the endeavours of Taema & Tilafaiga to the war goddess Nafanua, it is only then fitting that our first Tupu Tafa'ifa, was, a woman.



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Thats right, Queen Salamasina of the Tui-A'ana line and family of Salevalasi was the first Tupu Tafa'ifa, (bestowed to her all four titles by Tupa'i, Levalasi preferred to from Nafanua's request to bestowed the four titles to Levalasi) was succeeded in a direct line of descent by a series of Tui-A'ana; When Salamasina died, apparently was just the Tuia'ana title and Tuiatua title that was been passed down to the eldest which was her daughter Fofoaivaoese. (the succession to the two titles goes to the eldest: male is "Alii o Aiga" and female "Feagaiga a le aiga". unless there is an issue then consider the next child from the eldest). Then was Fofovaivaoese's eldest daughter Taufau. Taufau was sick and wanted to bestowed the titles on to her son Tupuivao but Tupuivao keep rejecting her mother Taufau to come home and wanted to stay in the bush killing pigeons. So Taufau got very disappointed and decided to pass the titles on to her sister Sina and her son Faumuina. (the saying: Ua tafea le utu o Taufau, ae au le utu o Sina) then Sina's son Faumuina succeeded the titles.

Tuia'ana Tuiatua Faumuina had two sons, Fonoti and Va'afusuaga Tole'afoa, and a daughter Samala'ulu, by different high ranking mothers. When Faumuina died the titles supposely passed on to Fonoti the eldest, but Samalaulu favoured her younger brother Va'afusuaga Tole'afoa, and no agreement could be reached between the heirs ("Tupufia": the three children all fia-tupu) and war ensued, with the maternal families and alliances of each of the children lending their support to the child of their own, why this war involved the whole of Samoa.

The distribution in the war was about as follows: with Fonoti: Fagaloa, Faleapuna, Falefa, Saluafata, Solosolo, Vaimauga, Faleata, Safata, Falealili, Fasitoouta, Falelatai, Manono, half of Lufilufi and of Leulumoega. On the side of Va'afusuaga Tole'afoa and Samalaulu were: Aleipata, Luatuanuu, Lepa, Lotofaga, Siumu, Faleula, Sagana, Saleimoa, Faleasi'u and Samatau, also all of Savai'i island through Va'afusuaga Tole'afoas influence.

Fonoti and his supporters were victorious, and the supporters of his kin Va'afusuaga Tole'afoa and Samala'ulu were defeated. Thereafter, Fonoti succeeded and was bestowed to him all four titles as King Fonoti Tupu Tafa'ifa, the second Tupu Tafa'ifa since Queen Salamasina. Fonoti being Tupu Tafa'ifa (four sided Kingship) which furnished Fonoti as sat upon his throne, opportunities to bestow marks of distinction. One of the examples of marks of distinction by King Fonoti is the two important districts; Aiga I le tai and Vaa o Fonoti, having different historical origins and maintain their independent political status to this day.

The Vaa o Fonoti district comprises the village of Faleapuna and the sub district of Fagaloa in the region of Atua. People in these places not only sided with King Fonoti Tupu Tafa'ifa but their fleets also contributed greatly to King Fonoti's victory. In reward King Fonoti Tupu Tafa'ifa designated them an independent political district in its own right.
Aiga I le Tai district comprises the villages on the small island of Manono and Apolima, and their associated villages along the north western tip of A'ana district, they sided with Va'afusuaga Tole'afoa and Samala'ulu against their brother Fonoti in the war. Probably in an effort to reconcile old differences, King Fonoti Tupu Tafa'ifa designated these villages an independent political district in its own right-thus the political district Aiga I le Tai, literally family on the seaward side.

King Fonoti's wish with his younger brother Va'afusuaga Tole'afoa:

So Toleafoa came and sat down by the in-between posts at the rear. Again the king spoke: Come, that I may determine our affairs so that your children and mine will fare well. The following were the words of Fonoti: The four high titles be for me and my children, while the title Tonumaipea be for you and your children, so that you will lead the aumaga. Therefore the aumaga shall be known to be sanctified. And because you have the title Tonumaipea, you shall sit on a mat, and only you alone shall sit outside on a mat, and the others of the aumaga shall be forbidden to sit down on a mat. When the kava chewing is over, all shall stand up with their kava bits and put them in the kava bowl; but for your kava bit someone else shall rise and take it there. Then let the kava bowl be brought and placed before you. If no king is announced by the tumua, you are to be Tuiaana aveau malaga and the words of the aualuma are to point to you. Your aualuma is to be cared for by Leulumoega, and Fasitootai and Fasitoouta are to protect them.

However, if you ever again reach for my things, you and your children shall be the prey of the creepers (in the grave) and water shall flow below you; if on the other hand I should reach for your things then I and my children shall be seized by the creepers and water shall flow under me.

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The kingship history from the top in colonial period with the palagi making the calls and kingship. not by the correct way and history by Samoa customs!

The kingship history just above is Samoa's kingship history before the colonial period that was based on Samoa customs by Samoa. WHICH IS THE CORRECT AND TRUE HISTORY OF SAMOA ON THERE KINGSHIP.

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Of course we all know dat Salamasina waz da 1st Tafaifa & dat Fonoti waz a Tafaifa aswell! Dats an important part of History! Da Tamaaigas are just as important 2day as dey carry some of da papa titles & cum from a long line of royalty!! So dere u go peepz!! Alofas!!

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Toleafoa wrote:

Of course we all know dat Salamasina waz da 1st Tafaifa & dat Fonoti waz a Tafaifa aswell! Dats an important part of History! Da Tamaaigas are just as important 2day as dey carry some of da papa titles & cum from a long line of royalty!! So dere u go peepz!! Alofas!!




Someone was asking for a kingship history by our own Samoan Customs to compare the difference with the history on Kingship by the palagi customs the colonial period which is anyones call which kingship history is the correct one, and live your life by.. our Samoan Customs, or you prefer by Palagi Customs which is not valid cause palagi dont make the calls for Samoa, Samoa makes its own call with there own things just like any other country. the palagi knew that why they left and tamaaaiga as HOS.

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I did ask for a comparison of the two ,so I can understand the history even better.

My question now for the original version is ..What happen to the Tapumanaia line ?Wasnt he the oldest son an only son of Salamasina

And which title of the four "PAPA" does he fit in . Or which Head of State title or tama a aiga he belongs to .

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No need to be offended ... Lets all agreed to disagree , but there no need to be rude.

Do we all agreed that a real king of Samoa has to hold all four titles or not?

If Fonoti wasnt the last one ,Then who was the last one and how did he get it .





I agree, that in order for a Tamaaiga to become king he must hold all four Papa.


yeah have to hold the four titles to be the King and bestowed by Samoan Customs! Samoa..



Not Realy!! yawn.gifyawn.gifyawn.gif




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I did ask for a comparison of the two ,so I can understand the history even better.

My question now for the original version is ..What happen to the Tapumanaia line ?Wasnt he the oldest son an only son of Salamasina

And which title of the four "PAPA" does he fit in . Or which Head of State title or tama a aiga he belongs to .




Fofoaivaoese was older, and yes a different father before Salamasina married to Tonumaipe'a Tapumanaia and begot Tapulesatele. The eldest succeeded the crown in each family. But they direct royals thou, blood, bone and flesh.. the only difference is one holding the Papa titles also. not like others they go through few persons to connect.

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I thougt Fofoaivaoese and Tapulesatele was Salamasina and Tonumaipea tapumanaias true children..

I did read that Salamasina had another husband but was force to marry Tapumanaia.



Who do you say Fofoaivaoeses father is?



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confuse wrote:

I thougt Fofoaivaoese and Tapulesatele was Salamasina and Tonumaipea tapumanaias true children..

I did read that Salamasina had another husband but was force to marry Tapumanaia.



Who do you say Fofoaivaoeses father is?






Usu fa'alepo Alapepe ia Salamasina ona fanau lea o le tama'ita'i o le teine.
Ona fa'aigoa lea o le teine ia Fofoaivao'ese.
Alapepe secretly courted the queen Salamasina, and when the queen was with child, the Tumua were surprised!.........so when the child was born, she was named Fofoaivao'ese,"To be bred in a differrent forrest".

Ona usu atu lea o le Tapaau o le Alataua le Afioga ia Tonumaipe'a Tapumanaia
ia Salamasina fa'ae'e le gafa o le tama o Tapumanaia 2nd, ona ave lea o le tama e Talo ma Ofoia i Falealili e fai ma o la ali'i, ma fa'asuafa ia Tapuolesatele.
The high chief Tonumaipe'a Tapumanaia of the Alataua was to latter marry queen Salamasina, born was a boy called Tapumanaia 2nd, however Talo and Ofoia two high orators from Falealili, took the young child to become their chief!....and named him Tapuolesatele. Who is still the Lesatele of Falealili to this very day.

Just to help out on our discussion, i wish all the sons and their families peace and long life, to the families of kings.....may your kingly ways depict the loftyness of your ancesstors, and above all, may we all remember the words of which are written on our seal of freedom. "Fa'avae i le Atua Samoa".
Peace and love.

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Pardon my ignorance in these matters. But the only way to know it, is to ask ..

In your reply , you refer to Tonumaipea Tapumania as the "TAPAAU OLE ALATAUA" can you elaborate more on that .

ps Looks like we had a real love story back then .. Should make a good movie..

Yes only true Kingship will reah out to keep Peace in the family ..

Just remember a little saying my mom use to say .. e iloa oe ole Alii i au amio ma ou aga.. Just a simple on .

Love and Peace from this Samoan heart.

Faafetai Lava


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confuse wrote:

Pardon my ignorance in these matters. But the only way to know it, is to ask ..

In your reply , you refer to Tonumaipea Tapumania as the "TAPAAU OLE ALATAUA" can you elaborate more on that .

ps Looks like we had a real love story back then .. Should make a good movie..

Yes only true Kingship will reah out to keep Peace in the family ..

Just remember a little saying my mom use to say .. e iloa oe ole Alii i au amio ma ou aga.. Just a simple on .

Love and Peace from this Samoan heart.

Faafetai Lava




Tru dat wud make a gud movie but i rekon da Mau Movement wid Lauaki & da Tamaaigaz leadin Samoa 2 itz Independance wud be 1 Orsum movie 2 make aswell!! Dat wud be 1 Helluva Hit!!

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confuse wrote:

Pardon my ignorance in these matters. But the only way to know it, is to ask ..

In your reply , you refer to Tonumaipea Tapumania as the "TAPAAU OLE ALATAUA" can you elaborate more on that .

ps Looks like we had a real love story back then .. Should make a good movie..

Yes only true Kingship will reah out to keep Peace in the family ..

Just remember a little saying my mom use to say .. e iloa oe ole Alii i au amio ma ou aga.. Just a simple on .

Love and Peace from this Samoan heart.

Faafetai Lava






To my friend confuse!.........Thank you for your question about the fa'alagiga of Tonumaipe'a as The Tapaau of the Alataua. Tonumaipe'a is the "ao" that the Alataua of Savai'i (Neiafu, Falelima, Tufutafoe and Satupa'itea) confer, guard and serve, it is the highest ranking chief of these villages, and who is one of many important and influential characters in our rich and beautiful history

Yes!......It was almost a real Samoan love story!lol!

I really love your comment about what your mum said about people knowing what
kind of person you are by your amio ma au aga!
Sounds like your mum is a very knowledgable beautiful Samoan woman!
It also sounds like you have been raised very well.
Love and peace to you, and all our readers, soifua.

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confuse wrote:

Pardon my ignorance in these matters. But the only way to know it, is to ask ..

In your reply , you refer to Tonumaipea Tapumania as the "TAPAAU OLE ALATAUA" can you elaborate more on that .

ps Looks like we had a real love story back then .. Should make a good movie..

Yes only true Kingship will reah out to keep Peace in the family ..

Just remember a little saying my mom use to say .. e iloa oe ole Alii i au amio ma ou aga.. Just a simple on .

Love and Peace from this Samoan heart.

Faafetai Lava






To my friend confuse!.........Thank you for your question about the fa'alagiga of Tonumaipe'a as The Tapaau of the Alataua. Tonumaipe'a is the "ao" that the Alataua of Savai'i (Neiafu, Falelima, Tufutafoe and Satupa'itea) confer, guard and serve, it is the highest ranking chief of these villages, and who is one of many important and influential characters in our rich and beautiful history

Yes!......It was almost a real Samoan love story!lol!

I really love your comment about what your mum said about people knowing what
kind of person you are by your amio ma au aga!
Sounds like your mum is a very knowledgable beautiful Samoan woman!
It also sounds like you have been raised very well.
Love and peace to you, and all our readers, soifua.


Just want to make sure please i wrote bothe history from the top but wasn't me wrote the gafa if that is the issue.. if its the history info i offend you im sorry. fa!

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Anonymous wrote:

confuse wrote:

Pardon my ignorance in these matters. But the only way to know it, is to ask ..

In your reply , you refer to Tonumaipea Tapumania as the "TAPAAU OLE ALATAUA" can you elaborate more on that .

ps Looks like we had a real love story back then .. Should make a good movie..

Yes only true Kingship will reah out to keep Peace in the family ..

Just remember a little saying my mom use to say .. e iloa oe ole Alii i au amio ma ou aga.. Just a simple on .

Love and Peace from this Samoan heart.

Faafetai Lava






To my friend confuse!.........Thank you for your question about the fa'alagiga of Tonumaipe'a as The Tapaau of the Alataua. Tonumaipe'a is the "ao" that the Alataua of Savai'i (Neiafu, Falelima, Tufutafoe and Satupa'itea) confer, guard and serve, it is the highest ranking chief of these villages, and who is one of many important and influential characters in our rich and beautiful history

Yes!......It was almost a real Samoan love story!lol!

I really love your comment about what your mum said about people knowing what
kind of person you are by your amio ma au aga!
Sounds like your mum is a very knowledgable beautiful Samoan woman!
It also sounds like you have been raised very well.
Love and peace to you, and all our readers, soifua.


Just want to make sure please i wrote bothe history from the top but wasn't me wrote the gafa if that is the issue.. if its the history info i offend you im sorry. fa!




No my friend you have not offended me.....
I was only replying to a question by ''confused'' that wanted me to elaborate more on the fa'alagiga of Tonumaipe'a, that's all - all is good,
peace and love to all....

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