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Lauli'i Village Loses Land Battle


Samoa Observer
Wednesday, 15 June 2011

The actions by the village of Laulii prior to the ruling of their claim to return land within their village to customary title have been described as harmful to their interests and that of their descendants.

The description was given by Supreme Court Justice Pierre Slicer, who delivered the ruling last week.

The village prevented the land from being surveyed. They used threats of violence to stop surveyors from accessing the land.

"Despite a formal warning by a Supreme Court Justice of Samoa some villagers continued with their threats of violence against the surveyors," Justice Slicer says.

There was also a threat against the Judge of the Supreme Court if he attempted to visit the land.

This would have been the Judge's second visit to identify portions of land, which might be awarded through adverse possession to the village.

Those who used or threatened violence have harmed themselves and their village, says Justice Slicer.

"The village might have regained a portion of the land but for their conduct. They challenged the law of Samoa because of self-importance and illegal use of violence.

"In doing so they harmed their own interests and those of their families, children and grandchildren."

The land in question belongs to Jacob Helg and Fritz Helg, both deceased. It comprises of 90 acres.

Appearing on behalf of the deceased men, Ramona Ash and Patrick Brighouse are trustees of the estate of Jacob Helg, Emily Helg is the administratix of the estate of Fritz Helg.


Lauofo Meti Properties Limited, the fourth defendant in the matter is a corporation operating on a portion of the disputed land.

They in varying capacities maintained that the land is held by private title recognized by the Constitution and not subject to alienation except by sale inheritance or gift.

Justice Slicer says the responsibility of the harm lies with the Alii and Faipule of Laulii together with the Pulenu'u.

"They did nothing to prevent the violence or looked seaward when it happened or when threats were made."

Justice Slicer says the plaintiffs argued their case on an 'all or nothing' basis.

The land in question is rich and valuable and is part of the history of Samoa - it was on this land, at the river, where the villagers of Laulii came to the assistance of the warriors of Malietoa in their contest with the warriors of Mata'afa.

Justice Slicer ruled that the registered owners (defendants) of the land are the legal and equitable owners.

That each and every member of the village of Laulii be injuncted from entering onto or interfering with any portion of the land without written consent of one of the defendants.

The Village Council of Laulii and/or the Alii and Faipule of Laulii were ordered to withdraw its resolution made on 25 June 1990 within twenty-one (21) days of this matter.

The Ali'i and Faipule of Laulii pay, jointly and severally the costs of each defendant in the sum to be agreed or assessed by this Court. Counsels have liberty to apply for Consequential Orders.

Justice Slicer also ordered the Registrar to forward a copy of these Reasons for Judgment to the Attorney General, the Commissioner of Police and, as a courtesy, to the Minister of Natural Resources, Environment and Meteorology.

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90 Acres? Goddayum, I didn't even know Lauli'i had that much Land to begin with.

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Fa'asilasilaga a Suli o Aiga e Fa'asino I o Latou Aia Tatau I Mea Totino Fa'ale Aganu'u



Lau Susuga Mamalu I le Ao O le Malo o Samoa Tui Atua Tupua Tamasese

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Afioga e,

O a'u o le Suli o se tasi o Aiga I Samoa.

Na nofoia lau'ele'ele o Samoa e o tatou tua'a ua mavae mo tausaga e faitau afe.

O Tulafono Fa'avae Tusia o le Malo Tuto'atasi o Samoa e fa'avaeina I luga o talitonuga fa'a Kerisiano ma tu ma Aganu'u a Samoa.

O le Fa'avae Tusia lea mo tatou uma.

O lo o saunoaina mai e le Fa'avae o Samoa I le Aso 28 Oketopa 1960, o le a tausia ia malu le fa'amasinoga tonu mo tagata uma I taimi uma; ma o le a tausia fo'i ia malu, o a latou aia tatau fa'avae, atoa ai ma aia tatau uma o tagatanu'u uma.

So'o se tulafono e le mulimuli ma le tausia fa'avae ua fa'ata'atia I le Fa'avae Tusia o le Malo Tuto'atasi o Samoa, o le a le aloa'ia ma e le fa'aaogaina.

O sui uma ua filifilia e fa'atino 'upu fai o le Malo Samoa, e ao ona fa'atino o latou tiute I le agaga o le fa'a Kerisiano ma le malamalama I le Aganu'u ina ia tausi ma malu aia tatau uma o tagata a e maise o a latou aia tatau fa'avae. O nei tiute fa'aupufai a Sui, e ao ona fa'atino I le agaga e aunoa ma se fa'ailoga tagata ina ia tumau ai le fa'amasinoga tonu mo tagata uma.

O le Teritori o Samoa e mafai ona fa'amatalaina fa'apenei :-

O molekule (o le upu fa'a Saeinisi e fa'asino I mea iti e fausia ai le tino ola po o le si'osi'omaga), e amata mai I lagi e o'o I le tuloto o le lalolagi I le va o le fua fa'atikeli 13 ma le 14 I le itu I Saute ma le fua fa'atikeli 171 ma le 173 I le itu I Sisifo o le nofoaga I le fa'afanua e ta'u o Greenwich (Peretania); aofia ai ma motu o Upolu, Savai'i, Manono, ma Apolima I le Vasa Pasefika ma motu lata ane iai.

I lo'u tulaga o le suli o lo matou aiga ua ou mautinoa fa'atasi ma lo'u Aiga e le I iai lava se taimi ua foa'i ai I le Malo o le HRPP o matou aia tatau e fa'asino I a matou mea totino nei e pei o le avanoa I le vanimonimo, o le oga sami e fagogota ai, o ni minerale o I le 'ele'ele, o vai taumafa mai lo matou laufanua, o la'au toto ma isi lava tamao'aiga 'ese'ese.

E aofia ai uma o matou aia tatau ma va fealoaloa'i e amata mai lava I le laititi fa'a-molekule (molecular) e fa'atauaina e le Samoa e amata mai Lagi e o'o I le Ogatotonu o le lalolagi o Samoa ma ona teritori.

O le Fa'avae Tusia o Samoa o lo o ua fa'amamaluina ai ma fa'atulafonoina ai ina ia malu o tamao'aiga ma meatotino uma mo le lelei o tupulaga nei ma tupulaga I le lumana'i.

E le mafai ona 'ave fua e le Malo HRPP ia tamaoaiga ma measina, a e le I tatalaina le feagaiga ma Aiga e pei ona ua iai I le Fa'avae o le Malo Tuto'atasi o Samoa.

O ni tu'utu'uga mo ni su'egatupe fa'apisinisi e le o amana'ia ai le taua o aia tatau fa'avae o aiga I Samoa e ona mea totino, e le o ni fuafuaga tonu pe fa'ale tulafono ona ua le mulimuli I le fa'atonuga o tusia I totonu o le Fa'avae Tusia o Samoa.

Ua tatau nei loa ona fa'amuta le faoa o aia tatau o Aiga e aunoa ma sa latou fa'atagana.

E tatau lava ona iai ni talanoaga ma Suli uma o Aiga I so o se taimi ua iai ni fuafuaga e ono faoa ai o so o se molekule (molecule) a aiga mo ni mafu'aga tau le Malo po o ni mafu'aga su'e tupe fa'apisinisi.

E iai lava ni aia fa'apitoa a aiga I a latou mea totino o I totonu o Itumalo ma Nu'u.

O ia mea totino e pei o 'ele'ele ma fanua, o le oga sami e fagogota ai, o le malama'aga e ala mai I le natura o le aiga na fanau mai ai, laa'u ma manu, o minerale atoa ma mea lelei uma ua maua mai I laufanua ma molekule uma lava. O le tu'ufa'atasiga o ia molekule e maua ai le atunu'u o Samoa.

O aia tatau uma nei tau le Aiga ma le Atunu'u o lo o saunoa mai ai le Fa'avae o le Malo Tuto'atasi o Samoa, ma e ao lava ona tausia ma aloa'ia.

I le Aso 20 o Iuni 2008 na tusia ai se fa'asilasilaga a le ali'i Loia ma se tagatanu'u o le Aganu'u Samoa e suafa ia Maua Faleauto, e fai ma Sui o Aiga uma o Samoa e fa'ailoa atu ai o lo o tumau pea aia tatau uma ua taua I luga a aiga ma ua tatau nei ona amana'ia ma aloa'ia le tausia o ia aia tatau. Ua le taliaina e Maua Faleauto, le faoa o aia tatau o aiga Samoa ua faia e aunoa ma se finagalo sa'ili ma se maliega mai Aiga e o latou ia aia tatau fa'avaeina.

O lea fa'asilasilaga fa'a lautele na tu'uina atu mo le silafia o Aiga Samoa a e le I pasia tulafono sa tatau ona le pasia, e pei o le Tulafono Resitala o Fanua ma Suafa 2008 (LTRA 2008) ma le Tulafono o le Pulega o Vai 2008.

E le tatau ona pasia o ni tulafono e faoa ai aia tatau o tagatanu'u ma Aiga ona e le fa'atagaina I le Fa'avae Tusia o Samoa.

O le taunu'uga o le fa'amasinoga tonu mo tagata soifua uma, e taua le fa'ailoa atu mo le silafia lelei o tagata uma.

O pulega tonu ma le fa'amaoni pei ona fa'asinoina e le Fa'avae Tusia o Samoa, e le fa'atagaina ai auala fa'atosina po o auala e le kerisiano pei o le pelogia o tagata ma aiga.

E le taumate e mafai lava ona iai o se maliega I tagata Samoa e foa'i o latou aia tatau fa'asino I mea totino. E maua fo'i ni maliega I luga o talanoaga ma feiloa'iga e fa'asino I mea totino pei o 'ele'ele ma fanua ma le vai. A e le gata I lea o le fa'aaogaina o le palota lautele I mataupu ua fa'atonuina e le Fa'avae o Samoa.

So o se Malo na te faoa aia tatau o tagata Samoa, ua le o se Malo ua aloa'ia e le Fa'avae o Samoa ma e le tatau ona 'ave iai o le fa'aaloalo fa'atulafono ma le fa'atamali'i e pulea ai Samoa.

O le Fa'avae o Samoa ma Aganu'u Fa'aSamoa e puipuiina aia o tagata Samoa mai togafiti e 'ave'esea ai o latou aia I totonu lava o lo latou atunu'u.

Na tauto le Malo HRPP latou te puipui I aia tatau o tagata Samoa.


Ou te le I tu'uina atu lava o'u fanua po o o'u vai po o o'u aia tatau I mea totino fa'ale Aganu'u I se tagata se to'atasi.
Ou te le I tu'uina atu fo'i I le Malo HRPP o se fa'atagana e fa'aaoga pe fa'atau ai o'u aia tatau.


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Because our Constitution is the founding document of the Nation and clearly states that the law of Samoa is based on Christian principles and Samoan customs and traditions, the traditional rights of Samoans as individuals and Aiga are preserved for all time.

These rights enable the owners to become wealthy through allowing others access or use of the rights.

Samoans do not have to sell away their traditional rights.

These rights do not belong to the government nor can they belong to any government unless the owners of the rights are consulted and agree to share those rights for ongoing value which preserves those rights for future generations and brings immediate financial benefit to the Aiga.

Any government is commanded by our Constitution to secure to the people all of their rights including fundamental rights in an impartial way so that justice is fully maintained.

The government is not permitted to deceive, manipulate or steal or hide the truth from the citizens of the FaaSamoa because the government is commanded to act in a Christian way by the Constitution. Some fail to understand the full import of these simple words.

Samoans must realize that they have the power in all things not the government. Villages in dispute with the government must use the FaaSamoa to fight back.

Remove the titles of MPs who violate the Constitution and show no alofa to their fellow man. Remove in this way their qualification to be in Parliament.

This is the law of the FaaSamoa. If you act as a tyrant, or thief, you can be removed by your Aiga.

It is not okay for the government to develop resources such as fisheries, minerals, medicinal plants or to use resources such as rivers or the sea or Samoan genetic material in partnership with foreigners, form companies to create wealth and ignore the traditional owners in each village and district. This is a theft from the traditional owners and is forbidden by the Constitution. It is theft from Aiga.

The FaaSamoa has never given up the rights of its citizens to its airspace, fisheries, minerals, water rights, plants, genetic or other treasures of any description to the government.

This includes all rights and relationships of any description from a molecular level of value to Samoans from the Heavens to the center of the Earth within Samoan territory.

Why should Samoans with their own traditional rights in their own districts, steal the traditional rights of other Samoans in different villages and districts just because they are government?

How can people who are not from Laulii decide FaaSamoa issues for Laulii?

Wake up Laulii! You and every village already have full power under the FaaSamoa.

If there is no impartial justice by the government then they have no Constitutional right to rule.

If there is no justice for Laulii or other districts then you only have yourselves to blame. Why do you ask others when the pule is yours by right and by might? Will strangers march you off your lands? The FaaSamoa has all the answers.

Settle your problems fairly and justly under the FaaSamoa by achieving a just result that all parties can live with.

Do not allow others to decide your land and titles issues! Wake up Samoa! Those who decide will soon pick their favourites and the real owners of traditional rights, titles and land will be cheated.

Didnt this just happen to your 90 acres Laulii?

Each piece of customary land is sacred to its Aiga.

All traditional rights are owned by Aiga not government. All rights are well known in the FaaSamoa. They do not belong to the government.

No Judge can steal your land unless you agree!
The Judge , Slicer, acted in a way forbidden by our Constitution because in a fit of anger he failed to secure to all the people their fundamental rights as required by the Preamble of Samoas Constitution.

The State is almost 50 years old. The FaaSamoa is timeless and eternal.

The government display values in their dealings with citizens which are unGodly, unSamoan and unChristian. They intend to take the land away from the citizens of Samoa because in doing so they remove the traditional rights of Aiga and redistribute the wealth to people who have gone mad with greed for the property of others.

Is it the ambition of politicians in the government to checkmate the FaaSamoa by taking the customary land and all of the natural resources and selling them off to foreigners?

The resources of the FaaSamoa belong to matai, villages and districts in trust for the present and future aiga. Every wicked business deal done to cheat matai, villages and districts of the FaaSamoa of their traditional rights will be undone and their shame will be seen by all.

The day will come when the private business interests of MPs will be disclosed. Then Samoa will see who upholds the Constitution and who has sold their soul to the Devil.


We ordinary Samoans know that the HUMAN RIGHTS PROTECTION PARTY has totally failed the Samoan people and proved that it is unable to protect the citizens of Samoa from the evil plans of foreign powers, who care nothing for Samoan Culture or the wishes of the people.

The HUMAN RIGHTS PROTECTION PARTY tortured the voters by never giving a good reason for the RHD change. Even worse, it has never told the truth to ordinary Samoans about the Land Titles Registration Act 2008.

Respected, intelligent and loyal Samoans have pleaded with Human Rights Protection Party not to betray the FaaSamoa by passing a bill designed to steal the land from the ordinary good people of Samoa.

The HUMAN RIGHTS PROTECTION PARTY acts like a domestic abuser. At home in Samoa it is a violent bully threatening and hurting its own family and never willing to listen to reason.

In the World, the HUMAN RIGHTS PROTECTION PARTY acts like a weakling with no better idea than to beg for more and more money from strangers every year.

In every village and district of Samoa, we the ordinary people must tell them that their time is over. It is time for Samoas brightest and best minds-men and women to stand up and protect Samoa.

Samoa will move forward without them -with politicians who love the people and will not sell their souls for 30 pieces of silver.

They should all resign immediately. How embarrassing to travel to other countries to take orders on how to oppress its own people.





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Hunter wrote:

90 Acres? Goddayum, I didn't even know Lauli'i had that much Land to begin with.





It was in the Dont Drink the Water bar at Tauese where I had a chat with the guy who ran the only ecosystem tour company in Samoa more than 10 years ago. He mentioned that one of his goals was to cross the border line between Atua and Tuamasaga district. Not only to do with history but also one of his many reasons was because it is such a spectactular place to hike.

So I wont be surprised if the whole idea of the survey is to do with more tourist attractions. I can understand from the article that it was a dispute between the village and the inheritance but there maybe something else underpinning the case. If it is the case, then who knows.

On the other hand, 90 acres can feed many hungry mouths so who doesnt want to invest in Samoa? Money worth spending!



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I'm not from Lauli'i, but when I was young my Mother used to take me on a regular basis to a very Old Lady who lived there for regular fofo's [massages]. I always thought Lauli'i was a puny little Village with not much Land so I was surprised to read that it once had 90 Acres before it was 'sold' [most likely the usual story of exchange for Tobacco and Guns] and overturned into Freehold Status as it currently is.

Um, what is underpinning the case is that the Village wants its Land returned pure and simple, LOL.

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Who has a better right?

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I'm not from Lauli'i, but when I was young my Mother used to take me on a regular basis to a very Old Lady who lived there for regular fofo's [massages]. I always thought Lauli'i was a puny little Village with not much Land so I was surprised to read that it once had 90 Acres before it was 'sold' [most likely the usual story of exchange for Tobacco and Guns] and overturned into Freehold Status as it currently is.

Um, what is underpinning the case is that the Village wants its Land returned pure and simple, LOL.





I was also told that this land was where the SPDC ran their stone quarry from so there must be plenty of wealth buried there.

For the village to return their land back, it maybe hard under the eyes of the law because this is not the only village fighting for their lands back. Satapuala is another village on the same canoe but not from a family owner instead the government.



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Hunter wrote:

I'm not from Lauli'i, but when I was young my Mother used to take me on a regular basis to a very Old Lady who lived there for regular fofo's [massages]. I always thought Lauli'i was a puny little Village with not much Land so I was surprised to read that it once had 90 Acres before it was 'sold' [most likely the usual story of exchange for Tobacco and Guns] and overturned into Freehold Status as it currently is.

Um, what is underpinning the case is that the Village wants its Land returned pure and simple, LOL.



A ai ai lole a papalagi oga koe magaga'o la'ia i lakou land..hehe!

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IesuMoAu OKAY wrote:

A ai ai lole a papalagi oga koe magaga'o la'ia i lakou land..hehe!



A'e Sole, e le fa'apea a fai gi kulafogo o le Ka'aloga e ga'o le kasi le Au e fa'ailoa ai ae pogisa ai lesi Au. E le'i fa'apea mai le Ref ae mea a fofola mai ia Lole a Papalagi e makou ke mikia, ga makou koe le vaai laia i makou Fagua. Aga makou iloaiga sa'o a kulafogo o le ka'aloga, e le kaikai makou pa'i i ga Lole gaoi Fagua, Hehehe!

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90 Acres? Goddayum, I didn't even know Lauli'i had that much Land to begin with.

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O au o le Laulii maoioi uliuli , ma oute malamalama foi i le faamasinoga e pei ona mavae atu nei. Ina ne'i faapea ane o le matou nuu o se tama'i nuu, o le tali e LEAI , e amata mai Vaoto tuaoi ai le Afioaga o le fofoga o le alataua i Letogo se'i pa'ia Mulifatu e tuaoi iai ma le afioaga o le amomua o le tuiatua i Luatuanuu, ae tele ina leiloa e tagata e maoitua foi ona laueleele , e fai mai le mau o toeaiina matutua o le matou nuu, afai e su'ea tonu le tuaoi eleele tau laulii, e tau lava ile tuaoi ma Siumu. E iai foi le afu tele foi a le matou nuu i Vaosa e faatoa iloa lava lona tele pei a fepasiai i luga o le ea vaalele e malaga i tutuila mai le malae vaalele i fagalii, o le pine faamau o loo iai nisi alagaupu e afua mai iai.
O le fanua e pei ona finauina nei, o le fanua o loo taoto i le pitonuu o Mulifatu, e tuaoi ai lea ma Leusoalii Luatuanuu, ua alai foi le lavea ai foi ma le aiga o le Sui palemia ona o sootaga foi i lena foi itu o le vai.
E le tau faailo lupe o le fogatia i le talafaasolopito o le tatou atunuu na afua mai foi i lenei laueeleele e pei ona finauina, i le taua i le va o Malietoa ma Mataafa , lea na mafuai ona toe fesiitai tuaoi o Itumalo tetele nei o Atua ma Tuamasaga mai Salelesi, i le vai e ta'ua o le Mulivaiopuafasa e tuaoi ma le Malumalu o le Ekalesia Iesu Keriso o le Au Paia i Aso E Gata Ai i Laulii lava, lona uiga o le fanua e pei ona finauina o Mulifatu e lavea tonu lava i Laulii - Itumalo Atua ae le o Laulii Tuamasaga, e ui lava ona o aso nei ma le faafaigofieina o le vaevaeina Itumalo Faalemalo ua lavea atoa si o matou nuu i Lalo o le Tuamasaga atoa ai ma le Itumalo faaalalafaga o Vaimauga i Sasa'e.
O se fanua e ta'ua, peitai ane, o loo maua i faamaumauga i le faamasinoga le faatauina o nei eleele i nai tuaa foi ma e na faiaupu o le nuu i aso ua mavae, a'o le mea moni, poo ai na iai? e faigofie lava le faatotope e le palagi faamaumauga ma faataga fai faapena, ae lilo ai le mea moni, pau a o lea, e talitonu lava le taofi e na'o le Atua na te silafia, ma e iai le faamoemoe e ui ina ua le taulau le faamoemoe, peitai e toe aso pea le La , o se taimi ma se aso o i luma, pe a talafeagai ma se ola ma le malosi o le Atua e foai atu i la tatou nuu Laulii, o le a toe avea lenei mataupu i le faamasinoga, e ui ua faoa e papalagi tatou fanua, tulou lou gutu ma le afi, ae le mafai e papalagi ona faoa lo tatou loto faalaulii e iloa ai tatou ia Samoa.
Manuia lou faasausauga Samoa, afai ua sala le gagana , pe pa'opapa i sa outou faitau, e poto lava le tautai ae sese lava lona Atu. O le agaga lava ia aua nei natia i fatualavai se tala otooto o so ta foi malamalama i lenei mataupu.

Faafetai & Manuia,



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Hunter wrote:

90 Acres? Goddayum, I didn't even know Lauli'i had that much Land to begin with.

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O au o le Laulii maoioi uliuli , ma oute malamalama foi i le faamasinoga e pei ona mavae atu nei. Ina ne'i faapea ane o le matou nuu o se tama'i nuu, o le tali e LEAI , e amata mai Vaoto tuaoi ai le Afioaga o le fofoga o le alataua i Letogo se'i pa'ia Mulifatu e tuaoi iai ma le afioaga o le amomua o le tuiatua i Luatuanuu, ae tele ina leiloa e tagata e maoitua foi ona laueleele , e fai mai le mau o toeaiina matutua o le matou nuu, afai e su'ea tonu le tuaoi eleele tau laulii, e tau lava ile tuaoi ma Siumu. E iai foi le afu tele foi a le matou nuu i Vaosa e faatoa iloa lava lona tele pei a fepasiai i luga o le ea vaalele e malaga i tutuila mai le malae vaalele i fagalii, o le pine faamau o loo iai nisi alagaupu e afua mai iai.
O le fanua e pei ona finauina nei, o le fanua o loo taoto i le pitonuu o Mulifatu, e tuaoi ai lea ma Leusoalii Luatuanuu, ua alai foi le lavea ai foi ma le aiga o le Sui palemia ona o sootaga foi i lena foi itu o le vai.
E le tau faailo lupe o le fogatia i le talafaasolopito o le tatou atunuu na afua mai foi i lenei laueeleele e pei ona finauina, i le taua i le va o Malietoa ma Mataafa , lea na mafuai ona toe fesiitai tuaoi o Itumalo tetele nei o Atua ma Tuamasaga mai Salelesi, i le vai e ta'ua o le Mulivaiopuafasa e tuaoi ma le Malumalu o le Ekalesia Iesu Keriso o le Au Paia i Aso E Gata Ai i Laulii lava, lona uiga o le fanua e pei ona finauina o Mulifatu e lavea tonu lava i Laulii - Itumalo Atua ae le o Laulii Tuamasaga, e ui lava ona o aso nei ma le faafaigofieina o le vaevaeina Itumalo Faalemalo ua lavea atoa si o matou nuu i Lalo o le Tuamasaga atoa ai ma le Itumalo faaalalafaga o Vaimauga i Sasa'e.
O se fanua e ta'ua, peitai ane, o loo maua i faamaumauga i le faamasinoga le faatauina o nei eleele i nai tuaa foi ma e na faiaupu o le nuu i aso ua mavae, a'o le mea moni, poo ai na iai? e faigofie lava le faatotope e le palagi faamaumauga ma faataga fai faapena, ae lilo ai le mea moni, pau a o lea, e talitonu lava le taofi e na'o le Atua na te silafia, ma e iai le faamoemoe e ui ina ua le taulau le faamoemoe, peitai e toe aso pea le La , o se taimi ma se aso o i luma, pe a talafeagai ma se ola ma le malosi o le Atua e foai atu i la tatou nuu Laulii, o le a toe avea lenei mataupu i le faamasinoga, e ui ua faoa e papalagi tatou fanua, tulou lou gutu ma le afi, ae le mafai e papalagi ona faoa lo tatou loto faalaulii e iloa ai tatou ia Samoa.
Manuia lou faasausauga Samoa, afai ua sala le gagana , pe pa'opapa i sa outou faitau, e poto lava le tautai ae sese lava lona Atu. O le agaga lava ia aua nei natia i fatualavai se tala otooto o so ta foi malamalama i lenei mataupu.

Faafetai & Manuia,





Malo Tautogagausia

sole faapea a kaiga e le ose Laulii Kaukogagausia he he he
Anyway, thanks for the details of this case. I just wonder whether Solomona Toailoa, one of your (Laulii) lawyer who lead the movement for the road switch, stand as the lawyer for your village. I don't mean to insult but isn't this one of the main goal of any well educated person(s) from any village is to stand for them?

Ga ose magaku fo'i lea o le kaimi kogu lea e kakau oga faaaoga ai kama fagau a le kou guu e figauiga le lokoifale. A'o lea la ua foliga mai le kou faamasigoga ua kou malolo, ia malo lava le malolo faakamalii.




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haha manatu oe lii e le maua foi le tautogagausia ia matou lol

Oute le'i maua se tala iliili o lenei faamasinoga e ala i le sa tulai foi mo le nuu, ioe o Solomona vae ane le Suafa Alo o le Sa'o ia Maposua o loo ia tauaevina ae faigata foi le Suafa Luatuanuu i lena foi itu o le Tuamasaga , ia Luatua ma le Gautaala. Ioe o le alo lava e faasino i le To'alepa (Toailoa) i Laulii. Ona o lea oute aumai i Niu Sila nei, o le a ou taumafai e saili lea vaega, ona toe reply atu ai lea.

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The Pirate and the Fee

In Ancient Polynesia societies sometimes soured.

Expanding opportunities for skullduggery presented themselves to traditional island authority with the advent of the Pirate.

Unscrupulous adventurers bought and sold Pacific people as slaves in foreign lands.

...Nowadays the Pirates have become predatory multinational corporations.

Under Tuilaepa, Malie le Gaoi! the malevolent Human Rights Protection Party has abandoned the Rule of Law and become a State of Terror an evil Fee.

Unless we wish to lose our past, our land and our water, our futures,we must unite to protect our Constitution and our Human Rights.

We will not be a party to our own extinction.

Say "We are Lauli'i"

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The Pirate and the Fee

In Ancient Polynesia societies sometimes soured.

Expanding opportunities for skullduggery presented themselves to traditional island authority with the advent of the Pirate.

Unscrupulous adventurers bought and sold Pacific people as slaves in foreign lands.

...Nowadays the Pirates have become predatory multinational corporations.

Under Tuilaepa, Malie le Gaoi! the malevolent Human Rights Protection Party has abandoned the Rule of Law and become a State of Terror an evil Fee.

Unless we wish to lose our past, our land and our water, our futures,we must unite to protect our Constitution and our Human Rights.

We will not be a party to our own extinction.

Say "We are Lauli'i"





Brado fsm. So Laulii will definitely get their lands back if they appoint you as their lawyer to challenge the court case. Looking forward to the end results of that battle.

By the way if the date set, please let me know via this page the date so I can book my flight and to make sure the camera will be fully charge.



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I was also told that this land was where the SPDC ran their stone quarry from so there must be plenty of wealth buried there.

For the village to return their land back, it maybe hard under the eyes of the law because this is not the only village fighting for their lands back. Satapuala is another village on the same canoe but not from a family owner instead the government.





It's funny how CommonSense relates Samoa's stunted Economic growth to the 'lock up' of Land under Customary Title wrought with Family disputes with the added negative of Landowners unable to gain access to Bank Loans in order to develop their Lands; and yet; not only are there plenty of European Estates lying about such as the aforementioned 90 Acres of Freehold Lauli'i Land, there is also plenty of Land under Government Jurisdiction.

*So basically the Government is looking towards the opening up of Customary Lands in order to fuel the Economy, but why can it not work with what it already has?*

In saying the above; why aren't all the Lands under Government "Ownership" as well as the masses of private freehold Land not fully developed? After all, ALL Customary Land that was written into FREEHOLD Status during the Colonial Period were those Villages/Districts most PRIME Land.

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90 Acres? Goddayum, I didn't even know Lauli'i had that much Land to begin with.

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O au o le Laulii maoioi uliuli , ma oute malamalama foi i le faamasinoga e pei ona mavae atu nei. Ina ne'i faapea ane o le matou nuu o se tama'i nuu, o le tali e LEAI , e amata mai Vaoto tuaoi ai le Afioaga o le fofoga o le alataua i Letogo se'i pa'ia Mulifatu e tuaoi iai ma le afioaga o le amomua o le tuiatua i Luatuanuu, ae tele ina leiloa e tagata e maoitua foi ona laueleele , e fai mai le mau o toeaiina matutua o le matou nuu, afai e su'ea tonu le tuaoi eleele tau laulii, e tau lava ile tuaoi ma Siumu. E iai foi le afu tele foi a le matou nuu i Vaosa e faatoa iloa lava lona tele pei a fepasiai i luga o le ea vaalele e malaga i tutuila mai le malae vaalele i fagalii, o le pine faamau o loo iai nisi alagaupu e afua mai iai.
O le fanua e pei ona finauina nei, o le fanua o loo taoto i le pitonuu o Mulifatu, e tuaoi ai lea ma Leusoalii Luatuanuu, ua alai foi le lavea ai foi ma le aiga o le Sui palemia ona o sootaga foi i lena foi itu o le vai.
E le tau faailo lupe o le fogatia i le talafaasolopito o le tatou atunuu na afua mai foi i lenei laueeleele e pei ona finauina, i le taua i le va o Malietoa ma Mataafa , lea na mafuai ona toe fesiitai tuaoi o Itumalo tetele nei o Atua ma Tuamasaga mai Salelesi, i le vai e ta'ua o le Mulivaiopuafasa e tuaoi ma le Malumalu o le Ekalesia Iesu Keriso o le Au Paia i Aso E Gata Ai i Laulii lava, lona uiga o le fanua e pei ona finauina o Mulifatu e lavea tonu lava i Laulii - Itumalo Atua ae le o Laulii Tuamasaga, e ui lava ona o aso nei ma le faafaigofieina o le vaevaeina Itumalo Faalemalo ua lavea atoa si o matou nuu i Lalo o le Tuamasaga atoa ai ma le Itumalo faaalalafaga o Vaimauga i Sasa'e.
O se fanua e ta'ua, peitai ane, o loo maua i faamaumauga i le faamasinoga le faatauina o nei eleele i nai tuaa foi ma e na faiaupu o le nuu i aso ua mavae, a'o le mea moni, poo ai na iai? e faigofie lava le faatotope e le palagi faamaumauga ma faataga fai faapena, ae lilo ai le mea moni, pau a o lea, e talitonu lava le taofi e na'o le Atua na te silafia, ma e iai le faamoemoe e ui ina ua le taulau le faamoemoe, peitai e toe aso pea le La , o se taimi ma se aso o i luma, pe a talafeagai ma se ola ma le malosi o le Atua e foai atu i la tatou nuu Laulii, o le a toe avea lenei mataupu i le faamasinoga, e ui ua faoa e papalagi tatou fanua, tulou lou gutu ma le afi, ae le mafai e papalagi ona faoa lo tatou loto faalaulii e iloa ai tatou ia Samoa.
Manuia lou faasausauga Samoa, afai ua sala le gagana , pe pa'opapa i sa outou faitau, e poto lava le tautai ae sese lava lona Atu. O le agaga lava ia aua nei natia i fatualavai se tala otooto o so ta foi malamalama i lenei mataupu.

Faafetai & Manuia,





Tautogagausia, thank you very much for describing Laulii's Ancient Borders and background into its Land situation. I now know why there were plenty of Lauli'ians living in my Village while growing up - it's because they had nowhere else to go [Haha!] Jks Jks! Nah, it's more the chemical reaction, Hehe!

"e fai mai le mau o toeaiina matutua o le matou nuu, afai e su'ea tonu le tuaoi eleele tau laulii, e tau lava ile tuaoi ma Siumu" = WoW!

O la'u au a ia vaai i ai, e le'i malamalama nai Tuaa i le mea ua latou faia aua e leai se na mea o le "Fa'atau" Fanua i le Fa'aSamoa.








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Ia faamalo le tofa tatala, faamalo le lafoga o lea foi ua malamala lou nei tagata i lea tulaga. Faapea lava ita e le tele Lauli'i a'e lea ua manino le mata o le vai. O si nei foi tagata faatauva'a o feoi o le Saoali'i. Ia sa osi e tuaa ua lago mai apouli ia aiga ia, ua mavae atu loa latou ua faapena ona le toe o'o atu se isi i lena foi itu o le aiga i lauli'i. A'e o lo'o tatalo atu aua le faamoemoe. O matou foi eleele i fuaiupolu ia na faapena foi ona faaoa e le poto o le palagi a'e mala ai matou nei o suli o lo'o fotuai mai.
Na'o sau fesili e tu'u atu tautogagausia, ua tapa fua i lou suafa, ia pe mafai foi ona ou faapea i lau susuga Tuisamau. O lea e talanoina le tuaoi o Atua ma le Faletuamasaga. Fai mai le mau a Tuaa a lo matou aiga e faapea na tofi le saoali'i e alu e nofo i Lauli'i e fai ma Niu i le va Atua ma le Vaimauga. O lea sou iloa i lea tofiga? Afai ua laavale i faamagalo le tamaloa vaimauga.



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Manaia le fesili a Tamavaimauga ae e i ai fo'i la'u fesilli faamolemole Tautogagausia.

Ou te faalogo pea o loo faalagi/faalupe Leniu o le sa'o-na-faapito ia Salevalasi. E faapefea ona maua e Leniu lea faalupega/faalagiga a'o loo faalupe ai fo'i Fiame i Lotofaga?



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Ia faamalo foi le faasoa!

Fai mai ia Hunter ae o le mea lea ua toatele ai tagata o loo nofo i le latou nuu ona e leai se mea e o agai iai pe nonofo ai foi. Manaia tausuaga, masalo o siumu lea e faatatau ai le tala a lau susuga pe leai foi.
E iai foi le aiga o loo tauaveina pea le Suafa tuuu mai Siumu i le matou nuu, ou te le malamalama la poo ua avea nei ma Matai faavae o si la foi aiga, poo loo Taula i maota le filifiliga o lea Suafa i lona Maota tauave i le afioaga o Tofaeono ma Sa Asomua, masalo ae o le pogai lea o le toatele o Laulii e sootai i lea itu o le atunuu, ona o Suafa foi o loo pale iai. O le a le tele so ta foi manatu i lea vaega, ona e iai aiga ma suli e fitoitonu ai lea fesili.
O fesili foi ia na aumai e ala i le Suafa Leniu, poo le afioga i le Sa'oalii poo le Uluai Saonafaapito e pei ona faalupe ai foi Fiame i lena foi itu o le Faleatua pei ona taua i le taimi ua fano, e iai e fitoitonu ai le faamalamalamaga o lea vaega, ina ne'i ou se'e i le faamatala ae le au so'u iloa ona fai lea ma sala o si ou tagata, oute iloa e talaeseese le atunuu e faapena foi totonu o afioaga ma alalafaga, e tofu foi matai ma o latou foi faamalamalamaga.
Ina nei faitauina foi so ta sese , ona fai lea ma lape o Laauli.

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We are one brothers and sisters let us carry the weight of these times on our shoulders squarely and with joy.

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I was also told that this land was where the SPDC ran their stone quarry from so there must be plenty of wealth buried there.

For the village to return their land back, it maybe hard under the eyes of the law because this is not the only village fighting for their lands back. Satapuala is another village on the same canoe but not from a family owner instead the government.





It's funny how CommonSense relates Samoa's stunted Economic growth to the 'lock up' of Land under Customary Title wrought with Family disputes with the added negative of Landowners unable to gain access to Bank Loans in order to develop their Lands; and yet; not only are there plenty of European Estates lying about such as the aforementioned 90 Acres of Freehold Lauli'i Land, there is also plenty of Land under Government Jurisdiction.

*So basically the Government is looking towards the opening up of Customary Lands in order to fuel the Economy, but why can it not work with what it already has?*

In saying the above; why aren't all the Lands under Government "Ownership" as well as the masses of private freehold Land not fully developed? After all, ALL Customary Land that was written into FREEHOLD Status during the Colonial Period were those Villages/Districts most PRIME Land.



You make a good point.

I guess my point is that ALL land that is 'locked up' - whether it is customary or freehold land is wasteful and not contributing to samoa's economic growth. However, the government can't force the customary landowners or freehold owners to do something with their land. It is all up to the suli and freehold owners of these lands to do something about.

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Nao na ou papai i le vai o tama a'e paga lea oute tu a'e oute gatete. Aua o samoa o le atunu'u e talalasi e mau eseese. Nei tei ua pei ita o se manu e segisegi i le tuasivi, nei tei foi ua pei ita o se i'a e tulituli e tanifa feaai o le sami.
O le mau a le puputoa ma le aufueloloa sa faapena o na sa'a foti mai ia te a'u. O le Leniu e faalupe o Sa'oali'i, aua o Leniu ma ona alo. Ia e faapea foi le mau a toeina o le Taliulu o ia lea sa mua i malae i Lauli'i. A'e peitai ina ua tofi Leniu e Tofaeono le vaimauga e alu e nofo i lauli'i. E fai ma niu i le tuaoi o le vaimauga ma Atua. Ia o lea foi e malamala na o atu o Malietoa Sagagamuli ma fai nu'u i Lauli'i ma Letogo ia lea ua faaifoifo le paia o tama ia ma ua avea nei ma tulafale aua ua tau upega o laua tau atu.
E pei ona ou fai atua e mau eseese le atunu'u, oute talitonu e ese lava le saoali'i o Leniu e ese le Saofaapito o Fiame aua e eseese mafuaga na maua ai. O le aiga salevasi i Lauli'i e faapea le mau a isi o le matupalapala, tulou pe afai ua sese lau faamatalaga. Faamagalo sou aleu.

Tamavaimauga.

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Sa ou auai i nisi saofa'i sa fai i Laulii e le o mamao atu ma o le tulaga lea na ou mautinoaina ai, le faalupega o Leniu i Laulii i le sa'ofaapito poo le sa'o-na-faapito ia Sa-Levalasi. Sa ou tau sailia foi le mafuaaga ae ona o le taimi ua vave.

O le Sa-Levalasi, afai o se matupalapala poo se igaga-to, e mafua ona ose tautua matavela. A le o lena fo'i, o Leniu e mai le laina o Salamasina pe a faataoto le gafa o le tupu tafa'ifa. Mo le silafia fo'i e lua tafa'i lea o loo i Laulii e o'o mai i le taimi nei. O le Vaetamasoalii ma le Gatoaitele.

O le isi tu ma le aga o loo faatinoina i totonu o Laulii, o le segi a Lotofaga. E ese fo'i le matagofie o lea faatamalii e tai foliga tutusa lava ma le aga a Salelesi pau le eseesega, o Salelesi e fai i soo se alalafaga lava. A'o Laulii ma Lotofaga, e faatino ose aiga. A maliu mai Sitagata ma le auvaa na taumua lasi i Laulii, e fai le latou segi. E faapena fo'i Laulii pe a o i Lotofaga i ni faalavelave fai.

Masalo o nisi aiga e le fiafia i matai e afea fua o latou maota ma laoa pe afai o latou faalavelave, a'o i le isi faleaoga sili ona aoga aua e tate faalogo ai i le tele o mea e le o mafai ona tusitusia. Pe moni pe sese fo'i, ae taua mo isi taimi.



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Faamalo le fetalai Lioner, oute talitonu o lo'o i ai le aganu'u lea i le va o Lotofaga ma Lauli'i. Oute talitonu foi i le va falenu'u o alalafaga ia e faalupe Leniu o le saonafaapito, o lou taofi o le faalupega o Leniu i le Vaimauga, Faletuamasaga ma Atua e faalupe o Saoali'i. Na talatala mai e le isi matai Lotofaga ia te au e sa'o le mau lea e fai le segi i le va o Lotofaga ma Lauli'i. Oute talitonu o se aganu'u manaia, i le aiga o lou tina i Taelefaga Fagaloa e faapena foi ona i ai le aganu'u lea i totonu o Fagaloa lava ia. E mafai ai ona segi a le tuua o le matou aiga ni oloa- toga, pusa apa i se maliu po'o so'o se faalavelave i Fagaloa. E matagofie tele aganu'u lea a le atunu'u. Se tala ua sala lafo i nu'u le aaina.

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I am a Lauliian and I say the Government, PM, and whoever else the Judge can go get ****ed, if anyone know's us we will fight till the end for what we beleive is ours and were not known as the Lion Heart for nothing, bring it on.

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