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Twelve miles south of Hebron (the city associated with the patriarch Abraham) lies an Arab village named es-Samoa. As is well known, modern Arab place names often preserve in a variant form an ancient place name that attached to the same spot thousands of years earlier. Es-Samoa is an excellent example of this phenomenon. Philologically, it represents a transformation into Arabic of the ancient name Eshtemoa, a town known to us from the Bible.

Geographically, the Biblical Eshtemoa fits the location of es-Samoa and thus supports the equation es-Samoa = Eshtemoa. In Joshua 15:50, Eshtemoa is listed among the towns in the hill country of Judah. In Joshua 21:39 and in a parallel passage in 1 Chronicles 6:42, we are told that Eshtemoa was a Levitical city of refuge, near Hebron, given to the sons of Aaron:


To the descendants of Aaron the priest they assigned Hebron, the city of refuge for murderers, together with its pastures [and] Eshtemoa and its pastures (Joshua 21:39).


Similarly in Chronicles:


To the sons of Aaron they gave the cities of refuge in Hebron and Eshtemoa (1 Chronicles 6:42).



Eshtemoa/es-Samoa was inhabited thereafter for thousands of years, down to the present day. In post-Biblical times, it flourished as a Jewish city from about the third/fourth centuries A.D. to the ninth/tenth centuries A.D.

Some of the ancient houses are still used by village families today. Stone lintels over the entrance doorways of several houses contain engraved menorahs, the seven-branched candelabra, in situ reminders of the original Jewish occupants of the buildings. On other houses we notice, on the stone entrance jambs, indentations that once housed mezzuzahs. A mezzuzah is a tiny inscribed scroll, placed in an indentation or in a receptacle attached to a doorway, in fulfillment of the Biblical commandment to inscribe [these words] on the doorposts of your house and upon your gates (Deuteronomy 6:8). Some of the indentations for mezzuzahs at Eshtemoa are decorated with small, engraved menorahs. One house even has an ancient white mosaic floor still in use today.

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The Mysterious Silver Hoard from Eshtemoa

By Zeev Yeivin

Twelve miles south of Hebron (the city associated with the patriarch Abraham) lies an Arab village named es-Samoa. As is well known, modern Arab place names often preserve in a variant form an ancient place name that attached to the same spot thousands of years earlier. Es-Samoa is an excellent example of this phenomenon. Philologically, it represents a transformation into Arabic of the ancient name Eshtemoa, a town known to us from the Bible.


Geographically, the Biblical Eshtemoa fits the location of es-Samoa and thus supports the equation es-Samoa = Eshtemoa. In Joshua 15:50, Eshtemoa is listed among the towns in the hill country of Judah. In Joshua 21:39 and in a parallel passage in 1 Chronicles 6:42, we are told that Eshtemoa was a Levitical city of refuge, near Hebron, given to the sons of Aaron:


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Timeline 1000 - 900 BC

Biblical History Timeline




Near East Egypt Persia Europe Greece Rome India Far East
2000-1000 BCE: Rome - Indo-European immigrants slowly inhabit Italy by way of the Alps. They bring the horse, the wheeled cart, and artistic knowledge of bronze work to the Italian peninsula. Two different groups, the Greeks and the Etruscans, occupy different regions of the peninsula during the eighth century.

-Phoenicia founded (c. 1000 B.C.)

-Phoenician alphabet developed (c. 1000 B.C.)

-Aramaeans overrun much of Assyria (c. 1000 B.C.)

-Kingdoms of Media and Parsa (Persia) founded by migrating Aryans (c. 1000 B.C.)

-Lydians from Asia Minor settle in Italy (c. 1000 B.C.)

-Ionians settle on the west coast of Asia Minor (c. 1000 B.C.)

-iron in use in Greece ( c. 1000 B.C. )

-Mayans settle in the Yucatan Peninsula ( c. 1000 B.C. )

-colonization of Samoa in the South Pacific ( c. 1000 B.C. )


-David is the king of Judah and Israel ( 1000 B.C. - 960 B.C. )

-David, king of Israel, captures Jerusalem and makes it the capital of Israel (c. 1000 B.C.)

-King Hiram I rules Tyre (969-936 B.C.)

-Solomon becomes king of Israel and builds Yahweh Temple ( 960 B.C. - 925 B.C. )

-Assyria reclaims lands lost to the Aramaean invasion (934-859 B.C.)

-Shesonq sacks Jerusalem (c. 925 B.C.)

-Israel divides into two kingdoms: Judah and Israel (c. 922 B.C.)

-Hebrew alphabet develops

The History of Rome - Part One 743 - 136 B.C.
Bible History Online (http://www.bible-history.com)

Bible History Online (http://www.bible-history.com)http://www.bible-history.com/rome/RomeTimeline_1000__900_BC.htm

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History of The World: 10000 BC - 354 AD

1000 B.C.
Mayans settle in the Yucatan Peninsula ( c. 1000 B.C. )
colonization of Samoa in the South Pacific ( c. 1000 B.C. )
David is the king of Judah and Israel ( 1000 B.C. - 960 B.C. )
Solomon becomes king of Israel and builds Yahweh Temple ( 960 B.C. - 925 B.C. )
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An Arab village named es-Samoa? That is way too coincidental.

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Nice research there Disco. Now all you have to see is if they say "I gahn buh live it."

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An Arab village named es-Samoa? That is way too coincidental.







Lolz...Like LN said...I kant Belev it....smile.gif

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Nice research there Disco. Now all you have to see is if they say "I gahn buh live it."







Thanks...Well...As long as we know....Main Prio....I kant belev it....Lolz...

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Want to know something even funnier guys/galz..Before 14 May 1948.Israel wasnt even a countryLolz.It was Palestine in Biblical Times.Lolz .hmmReminds of that Moses story !!.....



The Rothschilds have been in control of the world for a very long time, their tentacles reaching into many aspects of our daily lives, as is documented in the following timeline. However, before you jump to the timeline, please read this invaluable introduction which will tell you who the Rothschilds are as oppose to who they claim to be.

The Rothschilds claim that they are Jewish, when in fact they are Khazars. They are from a country called Khazaria, which occupied the land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea which is now predominantly occupied by Georgia. The reason the Rothschilds claim to be Jewish is that the Khazars under the instruction of the King, converted to the Jewish faith in 740 A.D., but of course that did not include converting their Asiatic Mongolian genes to the genes of the Jewish people.

You will find that approximately 90% of people in the world today who call themselves Jews are actually Khazars, or as they like to be known, Ashkenazi Jews. These people knowingly lie to the world with their claims that the land of Israel is theirs by birthright, when in actual fact their real homeland is over 800 miles away in Georgia.

So, next time you hear an Israeli Prime Minister bleating about the so-called persecution of the Jews, consider this, every Prime Minister of Israel has been an Ashkenazi Jew. Therefore when all these Prime Ministers have curried favour with the West for their re-establishment of a Jewish homeland, they have knowingly and deliberately lied to you, as they were never from that region, and they well know it, because it is they who call themselves Ashkenazi Jews.

The Book of Revelation, Chapter 2, Verse 9, states the following which would appear to be about these Ashkenazi Jews:

"I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

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Want to know something even funnier guys/galz..Before 14 May 1948.Israel wasnt even a countryLolz.It was Palestine in Biblical Times.Lolz .hmmReminds of that Moses story !!.....



The Rothschilds have been in control of the world for a very long time, their tentacles reaching into many aspects of our daily lives, as is documented in the following timeline. However, before you jump to the timeline, please read this invaluable introduction which will tell you who the Rothschilds are as oppose to who they claim to be.

The Rothschilds claim that they are Jewish, when in fact they are Khazars. They are from a country called Khazaria, which occupied the land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea which is now predominantly occupied by Georgia. The reason the Rothschilds claim to be Jewish is that the Khazars under the instruction of the King, converted to the Jewish faith in 740 A.D., but of course that did not include converting their Asiatic Mongolian genes to the genes of the Jewish people.

You will find that approximately 90% of people in the world today who call themselves Jews are actually Khazars, or as they like to be known, Ashkenazi Jews. These people knowingly lie to the world with their claims that the land of Israel is theirs by birthright, when in actual fact their real homeland is over 800 miles away in Georgia.

So, next time you hear an Israeli Prime Minister bleating about the so-called persecution of the Jews, consider this, every Prime Minister of Israel has been an Ashkenazi Jew. Therefore when all these Prime Ministers have curried favour with the West for their re-establishment of a Jewish homeland, they have knowingly and deliberately lied to you, as they were never from that region, and they well know it, because it is they who call themselves Ashkenazi Jews.

The Book of Revelation, Chapter 2, Verse 9, states the following which would appear to be about these Ashkenazi Jews:

"I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

-- Edited by Discopoliz on Sunday 21st of November 2010 01:58:01 AM




There is no DNA proof to substantiate your position. Political positions and genetic testing usually do not support each other.

I considered writing a book about the Jews. DNA testing clearly shows that when the Jews were driven out of Israel by the Assyrians, Babylonians, and Romans that they scattered both east and west. It was estimated that nearly twenty percent of the population of Ancient Persia was of Jewish heritage two thousand years ago. Most of them disappeared over the following years after Islam swept into what we now call Iran. Over a 1400 year period there could have been as many as Nine Million Jews killed in Iran by Radical Islam. those that were not killed fled to the north with a few migrating to Khazaria where the leadership of the Khazar kingdom adopted their faith and came to the belief in there being only one god. the people of Khazaria continued to believe as they saw fit, and most of them gradually became Islamic. The Chechen people of southern Russia are some of the descendants of the Khazars. They are not Jewish, but Radical Islamic and have been setting off bombs in Russia for generations now as they want to succeed from Mother Russia and form their own Radical Islamic state. There is no substantive DNA link between the Khazars and the Jews of Europe.

Based upon DNA testing the Shephardic Jews of Spain and Portugal when forced out of the Iberian Peninsula migrated (wandering Jews) across France and settled in the German Kingdoms and Poland in the Middle Ages.

There they developed a different culture and form of Jewish worship which is referred to as Ashkenazim. Their DNA which was strongly Spanish and Moorish in 1400 gradually became Germanic and Polish by 1700.

The Jews of Northern Europe acquired lots of German DNA. In fact one out of ten appeared to have very light hair to blond hair. They also picked up DNA for blue eyes. They did not pick up any Chechen DNA as those people stayed in their land south of Russia.

I had two scientists at Stanford University tell me that a great many of the Jews who fled from Europe in the 1930's to the United States were tested and found to be about 25% German even though their matriarchal DNA proved them to be Jewish. A lot of fine Jewish girls were opening their legs to blond haired blue eyed German Men and having babies with the people they lived next to even though their religions were different and it was a sin to breed with somebody from outside of your religion.

That is a fact, however embarrassing it might be to the Jews. The question is, "Were they all raped or were they secret willing partners?" I strongly suspect that a lot of women do not always have their husband's babies, but I will not make any accusations other than to state the grass is always greener on the other side of the hill.

There is no tracing of Khazar DNA into the Jewish people, but there is a lot of German DNA.





-- Edited by Neubarth on Sunday 21st of November 2010 07:52:57 AM

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There is a provincial place, in Iraq, called Samawa, it was affectionally called "Island Australia" by the Australian soldiers who were stationed there during Operation Iraqi Freedom. Some returned servicemen had Iraqi people stating that they were from Samawa, which sounded more like SAMOA. It had caused some confusion in the phonetically enunciation of this noun.

The problem we face is not so much the ethnolinguistic evidences of lanuguage and the geo-political locality of the etymological origins of the Polynesian race, albeit, in a 'place' or a noun of such a locality, which needs to be scrutinised, but, rather it is the aggregation of the pool of knowledge about the Samoan people and expansively the Proto-Polynesian culture which needs to be fully scrutinised only then will you finally be able to find the truth of our origins from where ever it was we came from. In saying that, more than likely, however, the trace evidence, scholastically speaking, is more probably is non-Semitic in its origins and will certainly have no evidence if at all with any Semitic cultures whatsoever.

Insofar as, the overall Samoan ethnological origins is concerned the issue seems certainly conclusive. We, more than likely, had migrated from a proximity location within South East Asia, more particuarly, a proximity locality within modern day Indonesia, some 3,000 years earlier.

The overwhelming evidence seem to come from the Lapita pottery in terms of archeological proofs of evidence is concerned.

The other overwhelming source is from the proto-Polynesian language of the Western Polynesian dialect which has a derivative form in the modernday Samoan language in which we currently speak today.

We differ from the eastern Polyneisans in that we still maintain and use the 'S' sound which has been dropped in the Eastern Polynesians, and they have replaced it with the 'H', or, a apostrophised omission entirely. Mind you we had also dropped the 'K' sound in which the Tongans still maintained in their language today, which means that we have a shared, although, a divergent, evolving origins as well. Recently, however, the K letter has been re-incoorperated into the Samoan lexicon and alphabet in the past few generations. This is primarily due to the continual interactions between Samoans and Tongans.

Finally, returning back to the question, the question of genetic origins in terms of our race may be considered as succinctly scientifically proven which gives strong support to a secularised educational empircal evidence to support the aforementioned view. Samoans are privy to medical and scientific knowledge not unlike any other thinking culture notwithstanding their religious or irreligious backgrounds. We need only to understand it and to appreciate self determination and self empowerment this proofs of evidence means to us all.

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Samoans come from our ALMIGHTY GODS CREATION, that is first of course, second, we come from the island of Samoa which is in the pacific ocean on this planet earth, and before that,.....my guess is AFRICA!!!! otherwise?????? we and us know it.

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RE: Where do Samoans come from..??....


Out of Africa was a premise that appears to be dated. Though Africa may be the initial source of the first modern humans, a lot of human advancement appeared to have happened in Asia.

One thing that we know for certain is that once "out there in the world" humans were wandering all over the place. The oldest remains ever found in South America were from an aboriginal Australian from many many thousands of years ago. How did that Australian get there? My guess is that people were making boats twenty and thirty thousand years ago.

The best way that we have in tracing the movement of people all over the globe is through DNA testing. It is revealing some very very interesting facts about early migrations.

Samoans come from Samoa, but their DNA came from a tremendous diversity of people who were migrating across the face of Asia and eventually out into the Pacific. The strongest survived. They are truly a "Poly" people and carry the DNA to prove it.

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RE: Where do Samoans come from..??....Eshtemoa...Es-Samoa....Palestine...Egypt....


There is Poly DNA in America (Kennewith man) and in Asia. So where did we come from? There are towering stone monoliths in Easter island and South and central America. There are pyramids in America and Egypt and China and Samoa. These all point to a very mobile population before the time of Christ and after. One thing we definitely know is that the Palagi was a latecomer to the exploration of the planet and yet he takes credit for all of it haha.

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i think we already talked about dis subject already..

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Oh my bad....but I jus woke up so I forgot. haha where u at Kupa?


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Discopoliz wrote:

Want to know something even funnier guys/galz..Before 14 May 1948.Israel wasnt even a countryLolz.It was Palestine in Biblical Times.Lolz .hmmReminds of that Moses story !!.....



The Rothschilds have been in control of the world for a very long time, their tentacles reaching into many aspects of our daily lives, as is documented in the following timeline. However, before you jump to the timeline, please read this invaluable introduction which will tell you who the Rothschilds are as oppose to who they claim to be.

The Rothschilds claim that they are Jewish, when in fact they are Khazars. They are from a country called Khazaria, which occupied the land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea which is now predominantly occupied by Georgia. The reason the Rothschilds claim to be Jewish is that the Khazars under the instruction of the King, converted to the Jewish faith in 740 A.D., but of course that did not include converting their Asiatic Mongolian genes to the genes of the Jewish people.

You will find that approximately 90% of people in the world today who call themselves Jews are actually Khazars, or as they like to be known, Ashkenazi Jews. These people knowingly lie to the world with their claims that the land of Israel is theirs by birthright, when in actual fact their real homeland is over 800 miles away in Georgia.

So, next time you hear an Israeli Prime Minister bleating about the so-called persecution of the Jews, consider this, every Prime Minister of Israel has been an Ashkenazi Jew. Therefore when all these Prime Ministers have curried favour with the West for their re-establishment of a Jewish homeland, they have knowingly and deliberately lied to you, as they were never from that region, and they well know it, because it is they who call themselves Ashkenazi Jews.

The Book of Revelation, Chapter 2, Verse 9, states the following which would appear to be about these Ashkenazi Jews:

"I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm

-- Edited by Discopoliz on Sunday 21st of November 2010 01:58:01 AM




There is no DNA proof to substantiate your position. Political positions and genetic testing usually do not support each other.

I considered writing a book about the Jews. DNA testing clearly shows that when the Jews were driven out of Israel by the Assyrians, Babylonians, and Romans that they scattered both east and west. It was estimated that nearly twenty percent of the population of Ancient Persia was of Jewish heritage two thousand years ago. Most of them disappeared over the following years after Islam swept into what we now call Iran. Over a 1400 year period there could have been as many as Nine Million Jews killed in Iran by Radical Islam. those that were not killed fled to the north with a few migrating to Khazaria where the leadership of the Khazar kingdom adopted their faith and came to the belief in there being only one god. the people of Khazaria continued to believe as they saw fit, and most of them gradually became Islamic. The Chechen people of southern Russia are some of the descendants of the Khazars. They are not Jewish, but Radical Islamic and have been setting off bombs in Russia for generations now as they want to succeed from Mother Russia and form their own Radical Islamic state. There is no substantive DNA link between the Khazars and the Jews of Europe.

Based upon DNA testing the Shephardic Jews of Spain and Portugal when forced out of the Iberian Peninsula migrated (wandering Jews) across France and settled in the German Kingdoms and Poland in the Middle Ages.

There they developed a different culture and form of Jewish worship which is referred to as Ashkenazim. Their DNA which was strongly Spanish and Moorish in 1400 gradually became Germanic and Polish by 1700.

The Jews of Northern Europe acquired lots of German DNA. In fact one out of ten appeared to have very light hair to blond hair. They also picked up DNA for blue eyes. They did not pick up any Chechen DNA as those people stayed in their land south of Russia.

I had two scientists at Stanford University tell me that a great many of the Jews who fled from Europe in the 1930's to the United States were tested and found to be about 25% German even though their matriarchal DNA proved them to be Jewish. A lot of fine Jewish girls were opening their legs to blond haired blue eyed German Men and having babies with the people they lived next to even though their religions were different and it was a sin to breed with somebody from outside of your religion.

That is a fact, however embarrassing it might be to the Jews. The question is, "Were they all raped or were they secret willing partners?" I strongly suspect that a lot of women do not always have their husband's babies, but I will not make any accusations other than to state the grass is always greener on the other side of the hill.

There is no tracing of Khazar DNA into the Jewish people, but there is a lot of German DNA.





-- Edited by Neubarth on Sunday 21st of November 2010 07:52:57 AM






Im not sure what to say apart from...keep reading....One day you may understand Fact from Fiction...

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Samoans come from our ALMIGHTY GODS CREATION, that is first of course, second, we come from the island of Samoa which is in the pacific ocean on this planet earth, and before that,.....my guess is AFRICA!!!! otherwise?????? we and us know it.






Depends how your map was drawn....biggrin.gif...If a white man drew it...Of course we are gona see what some white guy drew....hehe...God Bless

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Out of Africa was a premise that appears to be dated. Though Africa may be the initial source of the first modern humans, a lot of human advancement appeared to have happened in Asia.

One thing that we know for certain is that once "out there in the world" humans were wandering all over the place. The oldest remains ever found in South America were from an aboriginal Australian from many many thousands of years ago. How did that Australian get there? My guess is that people were making boats twenty and thirty thousand years ago.

The best way that we have in tracing the movement of people all over the globe is through DNA testing. It is revealing some very very interesting facts about early migrations.

Samoans come from Samoa, but their DNA came from a tremendous diversity of people who were migrating across the face of Asia and eventually out into the Pacific. The strongest survived. They are truly a "Poly" people and carry the DNA to prove it.







I keep seeing all these new profiles popping up outa nowhere...Lolz....

Infected indeed...!!

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There is Poly DNA in America (Kennewith man) and in Asia. So where did we come from? There are towering stone monoliths in Easter island and South and central America. There are pyramids in America and Egypt and China and Samoa. These all point to a very mobile population before the time of Christ and after. One thing we definitely know is that the Palagi was a latecomer to the exploration of the planet and yet he takes credit for all of it haha.








Sad thing about it is.....They use our own type against us....Example 101....HRPP...

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