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RE: Young Samoan men too often marrying outside of our race.


I finkin it becaus samoa womans are ugly and fat and hafe the mustaches like the mans and the palagi womans are the fat ones that hafe the no mustache but hafe the money that what l finkin

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I thought the Samoans are loving, nice people. However I see the true blue side of them. Unwelcoming and rude people. Gosh whoever you are that's unwelcoming you are making the welcoming ones look bad.no.gif

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we the best and the nastiest punch of peoples who do yuo finkin you is go sumwhere else then haha....

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Its not the Samoan guys fault if they are so handsome that the other races want to have their kids. Its natural. The Alpha Male in the jungle gets all the action. So sisters you all either have to grab them before the others get them or get your own Palagi or Saina or meauli.





I finkin i like palagi girls oh baby baby yeeeaaa they hot mummaas yeeaa the samoa girls no good they fat and hafe the scabs on the faces i finkin i go to usa and look for the palagi girl yeeeaaa

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Here, There, Everywhere, LOL.

Dating Black Guys [which included Islander Guys] was all the rage in School days because they were very rare - very rare indeed. However, everyone ended up marrying Palagi Guys. I never thought about it ... till now, LOL.

So Admiral - Are you saying here that Samoan Guys only use Women for their Fa'alavelaves? LMAO.



Nah I'm saying it makes life a lot easier when u both from the same culture. I know a few people that have forfeited faalavelave's because their other half (non Samoan) didn't want to come to the party. This would be due to their reasoning being too westernized and individualistic. They simply could not fathom the depth and breadth of the various branches of the aiga and how they inter-relate with one another emotionally and financially.

One could probably juxtapose this against a similar scenario of when two people marry who are, what the bible terms as, unequally yoked, or to use the vernacular, religious dissimilarity. Problems abound which is probably best left to discuss another day or perhaps by initiating another thread.

In saying that, I'm sure there are a lot of culturally dissimilar couples out there that have no problem with fa'alavelaves. I'm only generalizing from my small world lol.

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Samoans in NZ are increasingly secular when it comes to things like the church, extended family engagements, and you guessed it, the whole faamakai system involving keukusi after keukusi and ie koga after ie koga.

These are the same New Zealand Samoans that are going to school with every colour under the rainbow and almost every culture on every continent sharing the same classroom mat hehe.

They like to think that they are kiwis now and that marrying within the race will involve a lot of baggage and financial obligation. For them, it's easier to marry outside.


Those are some of my observations. Most of them don't even go to Samoan churches anymore, why would they want to marry a Samoan? hehe they're avoiding our culture like the plague. And it's very sad.

The Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs just released a report detailing the decline of the Samoan and Tongan languages over here. It only proves that our languages are also being replaced in the household.


The Ministry of Education over here has the option of teaching Samoan and Tongan from early childhood right through to university. At high school there are language programmes offered in the senior schooling system for both Samoan and Tongan.


Sadly, too many students in too many schools aren't convinced of their merit, and schools aren't offering them because of the lack of demand. Some Samoan parents think that it is unnecessary and that it will prevent them from mastering English.

However, if you compare that to the Asians/Indians, how many of them only speak English?

9.9/10 of them are probably fluent in Japanese, Mandarin, Vietnamese, Korean, Hindi, Arabic, etc. These are the first languages, English comes later for them.

Yet they are now dominating Harvard, Yale, Oxford and the WORLD!!!


The days of speaking one language are well and truly behind us.



-- Edited by Lupe Siliva on Monday 27th of February 2012 06:24:38 PM

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Nah I'm saying it makes life a lot easier when u both from the same culture. I know a few people that have forfeited faalavelave's because their other half (non Samoan) didn't want to come to the party. This would be due to their reasoning being too westernized and individualistic. They simply could not fathom the depth and breadth of the various branches of the aiga and how they inter-relate with one another emotionally and financially.

One could probably juxtapose this against a similar scenario of when two people marry who are, what the bible terms as, unequally yoked, or to use the vernacular, religious dissimilarity. Problems abound which is probably best left to discuss another day or perhaps by initiating another thread.

In saying that, I'm sure there are a lot of culturally dissimilar couples out there that have no problem with fa'alavelaves. I'm only generalizing from my small world lol.


We're obviously running along two different lines here.

Take away your extended Family and Fa'alavelaves and what do you have between two Individuals?

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Admiral wrote:

Nah I'm saying it makes life a lot easier when u both from the same culture. I know a few people that have forfeited faalavelave's because their other half (non Samoan) didn't want to come to the party. This would be due to their reasoning being too westernized and individualistic. They simply could not fathom the depth and breadth of the various branches of the aiga and how they inter-relate with one another emotionally and financially.

One could probably juxtapose this against a similar scenario of when two people marry who are, what the bible terms as, unequally yoked, or to use the vernacular, religious dissimilarity. Problems abound which is probably best left to discuss another day or perhaps by initiating another thread.

In saying that, I'm sure there are a lot of culturally dissimilar couples out there that have no problem with fa'alavelaves. I'm only generalizing from my small world lol.


We're obviously running along two different lines here.

Take away your extended Family and Fa'alavelaves and what do you have between two Individuals?

About six or seven inches hahahaha. Hell I don't know. I'm assuming love has always been there and trandscends any problems and issues couples face. Tell me what line your running on so we're reading from the same score.

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About six or seven inches hahahaha. Hell I don't know. I'm assuming love has always been there and trandscends any problems and issues couples face. Tell me what line your running on so we're reading from the same score.


I'm talking about the 'Relationship' Line between 2 People.

You are implying that marrying another Samoan is only convenient in the sense that they support/tend to Fa'alavelaves and your extended Family ... and nothing else.

What about the actual Person? Take away the 2 aforementioned factors and do you actually have a *shock-horror* ... Relation/Friend/ship?

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Samoans in NZ are increasingly secular when it comes to things like the church, extended family engagements, and you guessed it, the whole faamakai system involving keukusi after keukusi and ie koga after ie koga.

These are the same New Zealand Samoans that are going to school with every colour under the rainbow and almost every culture on every continent sharing the same classroom mat hehe.

They like to think that they are kiwis now and that marrying within the race will involve a lot of baggage and financial obligation. For them, it's easier to marry outside.


Those are some of my observations. Most of them don't even go to Samoan churches anymore, why would they want to marry a Samoan? hehe they're avoiding our culture like the plague. And it's very sad.

The Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs just released a report detailing the decline of the Samoan and Tongan languages over here. It only proves that our languages are also being replaced in the household.


The Ministry of Education over here has the option of teaching Samoan and Tongan from early childhood right through to university. At high school there are language programmes offered in the senior schooling system for both Samoan and Tongan.


Sadly, too many students in too many schools aren't convinced of their merit, and schools aren't offering them because of the lack of demand. Some Samoan parents think that it is unnecessary and that it will prevent them from mastering English.

However, if you compare that to the Asians/Indians, how many of them only speak English?

9.9/10 of them are probably fluent in Japanese, Mandarin, Vietnamese, Korean, Hindi, Arabic, etc. These are the first languages, English comes later for them.

Yet they are now dominating Harvard, Yale, Oxford and the WORLD!!!


The days of speaking one language are well and truly behind us.



-- Edited by Lupe Siliva on Monday 27th of February 2012 06:24:38 PM




There are so many factors involved when choosing a Partner - Least of all Racial differences - Most of all a Common Background in all forms and Common Goals - At least in my case.

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Admiral wrote:

About six or seven inches hahahaha. Hell I don't know. I'm assuming love has always been there and trandscends any problems and issues couples face. Tell me what line your running on so we're reading from the same score.


I'm talking about the 'Relationship' Line between 2 People.

You are implying that marrying another Samoan is only convenient in the sense that they support/tend to Fa'alavelaves and your extended Family ... and nothing else.

What about the actual Person? Take away the 2 aforementioned factors and do you actually have a *shock-horror* ... Relation/Friend/ship?

Are you sure thats what you garnered from what I wrote?

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Are you sure thats what you garnered from what I wrote?


Yep

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Are you sure thats what you garnered from what I wrote?


Yep

Can you break down my sentences then?

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Samoans in NZ are increasingly secular when it comes to things like the church, extended family engagements, and you guessed it, the whole faamakai system involving keukusi after keukusi and ie koga after ie koga.

These are the same New Zealand Samoans that are going to school with every colour under the rainbow and almost every culture on every continent sharing the same classroom mat hehe.

They like to think that they are kiwis now and that marrying within the race will involve a lot of baggage and financial obligation. For them, it's easier to marry outside.


Those are some of my observations. Most of them don't even go to Samoan churches anymore, why would they want to marry a Samoan? hehe they're avoiding our culture like the plague. And it's very sad.

The Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs just released a report detailing the decline of the Samoan and Tongan languages over here. It only proves that our languages are also being replaced in the household.


The Ministry of Education over here has the option of teaching Samoan and Tongan from early childhood right through to university. At high school there are language programmes offered in the senior schooling system for both Samoan and Tongan.


Sadly, too many students in too many schools aren't convinced of their merit, and schools aren't offering them because of the lack of demand. Some Samoan parents think that it is unnecessary and that it will prevent them from mastering English.

However, if you compare that to the Asians/Indians, how many of them only speak English?

9.9/10 of them are probably fluent in Japanese, Mandarin, Vietnamese, Korean, Hindi, Arabic, etc. These are the first languages, English comes later for them.

Yet they are now dominating Harvard, Yale, Oxford and the WORLD!!!


The days of speaking one language are well and truly behind us.



-- Edited by Lupe Siliva on Monday 27th of February 2012 06:24:38 PM



Yes it is sad. I know exactly what your talking about because I am a NZ born second generation Samoan my self. It's up to us to educate Samoans about the power of the human brain in terms of it's capacity in absorption of new ideas, including languages, at an early age.

One of my kids attends a school where ninety percent are chinese. Given the current global climate, I am seriously thinking of making him learn Manderin lol.

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Good call Admiral, Mandarin will be crucial in twenty years time.

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manaia le mataupu, Love has no race. im my perfect world marrying a samoa woman would be ideal, but when happiness remove race card from your heart. just gotta educate your other half about your culture and hope it allow u to grow old with that person

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Concerned wrote:

Anyone else notice this problem in the Australia, New Zealand and in the States? It seems like most of our men end up marrying Palagi and Saiga females. Why guys?






WHY is this a problem or an issue???? So what if samoan guys marry outside of the race? Samoan women...marry outside of our race too.

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