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is samoan people losing the traditional culture??
 


i think us samoans up here in the U.S are surely losing it, for some reasons of school and at work.... when we are at school we tend to speak english all the way out....but its a shame my language is fading away slowly....but to prove your a true samoan stand your root and claim it out, till your ending time arrives.... i know its hard for us teenagers to stand our root on another island thats not claimed as ours... but like what mama and papa always say, aua lava nei fagalo ina le atu nu'u pele sa e tua i ai aso anamua.... so us samoans up here, look for a good trait to put your childrens on track instead of lacking off from the samoan track.....

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Anonymous

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ABOU TIME TO GET FADED AWAY..LOOSING YR LANGUAGE IS NOTHING TO DO W THE CULTURE..WEN U GO HOME SPEAK IN SAMOA GO TO SCHOOL USE THE ENGLISH..NONE OF THIS BUSINESS THAT U LOOSE COS OF THE WAY U TALK...I WOULD LIKE TO ABOLISHED AND FOREVER SUCH CULTURE ITS A KILLER AND THREATENING TO OUR CHILDREN WEN GROW UP..THEY NEE TO GROW UP NOT TO BLOW UP...

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Anonymous

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yes, i dink we r losing da gagana faasamoa, ae sao lelei.... wen ur in public wit such as job or skool themes alu faasolo akoa le palafu, but wen ur at home ifa loa le faa samoa lakou....but 4 those who r losing it, tend and try hard to get ur gagana back... peace out....

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TEiNe SaMOa

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LIKE MEEH!I WAS BORN IN CALIFORNIA AND RAISE IN HAWAII,O OU MATUA O LE SAMOA,O AU NA OU OLA IFO E LEILOA MA SE FA'ASAMOA...AVE LOA AU E OU MATUA I SAMOA.E TAUMAFAI E AO LE FAASAMOA.AUA E ITA TELE LOU GRANDMA PE A FAAPALAGI SE ISI....AGA LE AVE A AU I SAMOA OU TE LE ILOA FAASAMOA......AE OU TE FIAFIA LAVA E FAASAMOA....E SILI ATU LOU ILOA FAASAMOA AUA A FAI SE MEA FAASAMOA ALE TOU AIGA AE NAE E TE MALAMALAMA AI....SOIFUA

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Virgin

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Im a NZ Born Breed. My parents speak samoan to me and my siblings but we speak back in English. Cant really blame us if we talk English as it is what we speak in Schools, Work basically everywhere. We only talk Samoan when we are at church, Sunday School, Aufaipese, Autalavou etc. Im glad our parent took us to loku, if we went somewhere else, We would have definately lost it...

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TaiLa

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I think we are losing it slowly. I also reply back in English however when I speak to the elderly in Samoan and I panick coz I forget how to say a certain word or phrase in Samoan, I reply to them in English which is not good hahahaha.
They just laugh with me and say, "E! Fefe ia le keine Niue." Coz I am half Niuean hahaha.

Its not only our lingo, its also the dancing. Notice how polyfest is getting a bit boring? I'm always seeing the same dance moves or new ones that are like hip hop dance moves. I feel that the tutors for next year need to go to Samoa to get some inspiration then come back and put something new but traditional into it.

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hamo

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TaiLa wrote:

I think we are losing it slowly. I also reply back in English however when I speak to the elderly in Samoan and I panick coz I forget how to say a certain word or phrase in Samoan, I reply to them in English which is not good hahahaha.
They just laugh with me and say, "E! Fefe ia le keine Niue." Coz I am half Niuean hahaha.

Its not only our lingo, its also the dancing. Notice how polyfest is getting a bit boring? I'm always seeing the same dance moves or new ones that are like hip hop dance moves. I feel that the tutors for next year need to go to Samoa to get some inspiration then come back and put something new but traditional into it.






MAN!!! Taila you touched on something that i totally agree with man!
I stopped watching the Samoan stage during polyfest along time ago!
cuz it looked like i was watching a damn mtv video some times, so i just kept to the Niuean stage LOL!!! the tongans and the cooks at least they keep not only to their traditional way of dancing, but their costumes are elaborate and showoff the natural materials and craft of their peoples, the samoan stage on the other hand mannn!!
with the exception of the taupou or manaia, the rest looked like they just chuked on a lavalava and came on stage!!
Come on people!! BACK TO THE ROOTS!!

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TAMATI VAIMOSO

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Virgin wrote:

Im a NZ Born Breed. My parents speak samoan to me and my siblings but we speak back in English. Cant really blame us if we talk English as it is what we speak in Schools, Work basically everywhere. We only talk Samoan when we are at church, Sunday School, Aufaipese, Autalavou etc. Im glad our parent took us to loku, if we went somewhere else, We would have definately lost it...




HI VIRGIN HOW YOU DOING.???biggrin.gif

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Anonymous

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TAMATI VAIMOSO wrote:

Virgin wrote:

Im a NZ Born Breed. My parents speak samoan to me and my siblings but we speak back in English. Cant really blame us if we talk English as it is what we speak in Schools, Work basically everywhere. We only talk Samoan when we are at church, Sunday School, Aufaipese, Autalavou etc. Im glad our parent took us to loku, if we went somewhere else, We would have definately lost it...




HI VIRGIN HOW YOU DOING.???biggrin.gif


Have you finger Virgin yet bro..??? Tell us the update if you have thanks

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TaiLa

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Morning Hamo hahahaha.
Oh and the other thing that pissed me off is how some schools didn't even perform this year. I was like WTF is going on?? Then I find out that it has to do with the judges not being fair, which I have to agree on. They really need to get judges from outside of NZ to judge the schools.

The other thing is that some kids don't know the correct manners to have when being at a toana'i and stuff. Parents, teach your kids if you don't like other people growling them coz they're doing something wrong and offensive.

eg, eating a drumstick while clearing plates from the elders tables hahaha.
Girls not wearing a lavalava and wearing those short as shorts hahaha.

Man too funny...

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tamaiti vaimoso

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Anonymous wrote:

TAMATI VAIMOSO wrote:

Virgin wrote:

Im a NZ Born Breed. My parents speak samoan to me and my siblings but we speak back in English. Cant really blame us if we talk English as it is what we speak in Schools, Work basically everywhere. We only talk Samoan when we are at church, Sunday School, Aufaipese, Autalavou etc. Im glad our parent took us to loku, if we went somewhere else, We would have definately lost it...




HI VIRGIN HOW YOU DOING.???biggrin.gif


Have you finger Virgin yet bro..??? Tell us the update if you have thanks


hehehe nah uso i wish she playing hard t getbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifand it won't b the finger it be sumthin elsebiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

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Anonymous

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tamaiti vaimoso wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

TAMATI VAIMOSO wrote:

Virgin wrote:

Im a NZ Born Breed. My parents speak samoan to me and my siblings but we speak back in English. Cant really blame us if we talk English as it is what we speak in Schools, Work basically everywhere. We only talk Samoan when we are at church, Sunday School, Aufaipese, Autalavou etc. Im glad our parent took us to loku, if we went somewhere else, We would have definately lost it...




HI VIRGIN HOW YOU DOING.???biggrin.gif


Have you finger Virgin yet bro..??? Tell us the update if you have thanks


hehehe nah uso i wish she playing hard t getbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifand it won't b the finger it be sumthin elsebiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif


Give it to her what she wants bro! have a good one bro for the boys! biggrin.gif

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hamo

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TaiLa wrote:

Morning Hamo hahahaha.
Oh and the other thing that pissed me off is how some schools didn't even perform this year. I was like WTF is going on?? Then I find out that it has to do with the judges not being fair, which I have to agree on. They really need to get judges from outside of NZ to judge the schools.

The other thing is that some kids don't know the correct manners to have when being at a toana'i and stuff. Parents, teach your kids if you don't like other people growling them coz they're doing something wrong and offensive.

eg, eating a drumstick while clearing plates from the elders tables hahaha.
Girls not wearing a lavalava and wearing those short as shorts hahaha.

Man too funny...






hahaha!lol!.......totally!polyfest especially Samoan stage needs a total change including judges.

Now with toana'i, and the do's and donts, well that may vary from church to church and family to family and how observant a church or family is on those aspects of fa'asamoa, but i know when i was in NZ and attending church there, things were prity strict, and we had to observe all the right protocls when it came to doing the feaus or we would be told off by the faletua of the faifeau lol!....love those days

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TaiLa

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hamo wrote:

TaiLa wrote:

Morning Hamo hahahaha.
Oh and the other thing that pissed me off is how some schools didn't even perform this year. I was like WTF is going on?? Then I find out that it has to do with the judges not being fair, which I have to agree on. They really need to get judges from outside of NZ to judge the schools.

The other thing is that some kids don't know the correct manners to have when being at a toana'i and stuff. Parents, teach your kids if you don't like other people growling them coz they're doing something wrong and offensive.

eg, eating a drumstick while clearing plates from the elders tables hahaha.
Girls not wearing a lavalava and wearing those short as shorts hahaha.

Man too funny...






hahaha!lol!.......totally!polyfest especially Samoan stage needs a total change including judges.

Now with toana'i, and the do's and donts, well that may vary from church to church and family to family and how observant a church or family is on those aspects of fa'asamoa, but i know when i was in NZ and attending church there, things were prity strict, and we had to observe all the right protocls when it came to doing the feaus or we would be told off by the faletua of the faifeau lol!....love those days




Hahahahaha so were you the guy with the ili fanning the fly's from the food or the lady in the kitchen doing the dishes or serving the meals? Hahaha.

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Virgin

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Anonymous wrote:

tamaiti vaimoso wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

TAMATI VAIMOSO wrote:

Virgin wrote:

Im a NZ Born Breed. My parents speak samoan to me and my siblings but we speak back in English. Cant really blame us if we talk English as it is what we speak in Schools, Work basically everywhere. We only talk Samoan when we are at church, Sunday School, Aufaipese, Autalavou etc. Im glad our parent took us to loku, if we went somewhere else, We would have definately lost it...




HI VIRGIN HOW YOU DOING.???biggrin.gif


Have you finger Virgin yet bro..??? Tell us the update if you have thanks


hehehe nah uso i wish she playing hard t getbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifand it won't b the finger it be sumthin elsebiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif


Give it to her what she wants bro! have a good one bro for the boys! biggrin.gif




Sole ua koe o mai le au faakiga ulu..LOL..Hello Vaimoso, ready to play???? And anoni, ready to watch.... dont dribble too much, you might need a tali faua... LOL...just joking guys,

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hamo

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TaiLa wrote:

hamo wrote:

TaiLa wrote:

Morning Hamo hahahaha.
Oh and the other thing that pissed me off is how some schools didn't even perform this year. I was like WTF is going on?? Then I find out that it has to do with the judges not being fair, which I have to agree on. They really need to get judges from outside of NZ to judge the schools.

The other thing is that some kids don't know the correct manners to have when being at a toana'i and stuff. Parents, teach your kids if you don't like other people growling them coz they're doing something wrong and offensive.

eg, eating a drumstick while clearing plates from the elders tables hahaha.
Girls not wearing a lavalava and wearing those short as shorts hahaha.

Man too funny...






hahaha!lol!.......totally!polyfest especially Samoan stage needs a total change including judges.

Now with toana'i, and the do's and donts, well that may vary from church to church and family to family and how observant a church or family is on those aspects of fa'asamoa, but i know when i was in NZ and attending church there, things were prity strict, and we had to observe all the right protocls when it came to doing the feaus or we would be told off by the faletua of the faifeau lol!....love those days




Hahahahaha so were you the guy with the ili fanning the fly's from the food or the lady in the kitchen doing the dishes or serving the meals? Hahaha.




I was the one talking to the tofi's daughter lol!....nah jokes!....I was always at the back either slicing talo, opening pisupo or chopping the pua'as up.
Serving the tables was more reserved for the gurls, i did the real stuff!lol!.....oh memories.....

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Virgin

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I attend a Methodist church and I supervise the youth as they are the ones who stand in the kitchen during kogai. The guys role is cutting up kalos, pisupo puaa and do the serving & apa fafago, the girls role is fufulu ipu and koe aso ipu for the guys to serve and look after the head table which the faifeau sits on. Just a question, is that how you really do it...

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Anonymous

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Virgin wrote:

I attend a Methodist church and I supervise the youth as they are the ones who stand in the kitchen during kogai. The guys role is cutting up kalos, pisupo puaa and do the serving & apa fafago, the girls role is fufulu ipu and koe aso ipu for the guys to serve and look after the head table which the faifeau sits on. Just a question, is that how you really do it...




SE VIRGIN FAGAU KASI PU KELE..!! HAHAHAHA.. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifwink.gif

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Virgin

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Hey Anoni, thats not funny now...

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hamo

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Virgin wrote:

I attend a Methodist church and I supervise the youth as they are the ones who stand in the kitchen during kogai. The guys role is cutting up kalos, pisupo puaa and do the serving & apa fafago, the girls role is fufulu ipu and koe aso ipu for the guys to serve and look after the head table which the faifeau sits on. Just a question, is that how you really do it...






pretty much, what i've seen and experienced is yes the gurls take the foods out and deal with the main tables while the boys do all the manly stuff and watch out for the apa fafago's.Thats the way its done.

p.s V gurl, can you get rid of your fan club man!...they are kind of like fa'aleaga mea!lol!

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Virgin

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Yeah, they getting annoying too, they pop out like viruses. Just which i had a abuse buttons to block them out...LOL... but i guess thats the fun of this forum, you gotta have the serious, the learners, the dickheads and the clowns...

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TaiLa

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hamo wrote:

TaiLa wrote:

hamo wrote:

TaiLa wrote:

Morning Hamo hahahaha.
Oh and the other thing that pissed me off is how some schools didn't even perform this year. I was like WTF is going on?? Then I find out that it has to do with the judges not being fair, which I have to agree on. They really need to get judges from outside of NZ to judge the schools.

The other thing is that some kids don't know the correct manners to have when being at a toana'i and stuff. Parents, teach your kids if you don't like other people growling them coz they're doing something wrong and offensive.

eg, eating a drumstick while clearing plates from the elders tables hahaha.
Girls not wearing a lavalava and wearing those short as shorts hahaha.

Man too funny...






hahaha!lol!.......totally!polyfest especially Samoan stage needs a total change including judges.

Now with toana'i, and the do's and donts, well that may vary from church to church and family to family and how observant a church or family is on those aspects of fa'asamoa, but i know when i was in NZ and attending church there, things were prity strict, and we had to observe all the right protocls when it came to doing the feaus or we would be told off by the faletua of the faifeau lol!....love those days




Hahahahaha so were you the guy with the ili fanning the fly's from the food or the lady in the kitchen doing the dishes or serving the meals? Hahaha.




I was the one talking to the tofi's daughter lol!....nah jokes!....I was always at the back either slicing talo, opening pisupo or chopping the pua'as up.
Serving the tables was more reserved for the gurls, i did the real stuff!lol!.....oh memories.....




Awwwww dat guy hahahahahahaha yeah I remember you now hahahaha jokes!!
Which loku was that? EFKS, Methodist, Catholic.... maybe Budhism? Hahahaha!

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Anonymous

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TaiLa wrote:

hamo wrote:

TaiLa wrote:

hamo wrote:

TaiLa wrote:

Morning Hamo hahahaha.
Oh and the other thing that pissed me off is how some schools didn't even perform this year. I was like WTF is going on?? Then I find out that it has to do with the judges not being fair, which I have to agree on. They really need to get judges from outside of NZ to judge the schools.

The other thing is that some kids don't know the correct manners to have when being at a toana'i and stuff. Parents, teach your kids if you don't like other people growling them coz they're doing something wrong and offensive.

eg, eating a drumstick while clearing plates from the elders tables hahaha.
Girls not wearing a lavalava and wearing those short as shorts hahaha.

Man too funny...






LOL! i remember you too!....lol!....EFKS rocks doll!!!YEAHHHH!!

hahaha!lol!.......totally!polyfest especially Samoan stage needs a total change including judges.

Now with toana'i, and the do's and donts, well that may vary from church to church and family to family and how observant a church or family is on those aspects of fa'asamoa, but i know when i was in NZ and attending church there, things were prity strict, and we had to observe all the right protocls when it came to doing the feaus or we would be told off by the faletua of the faifeau lol!....love those days




Hahahahaha so were you the guy with the ili fanning the fly's from the food or the lady in the kitchen doing the dishes or serving the meals? Hahaha.




I was the one talking to the tofi's daughter lol!....nah jokes!....I was always at the back either slicing talo, opening pisupo or chopping the pua'as up.
Serving the tables was more reserved for the gurls, i did the real stuff!lol!.....oh memories.....




Awwwww dat guy hahahahahahaha yeah I remember you now hahahaha jokes!!
Which loku was that? EFKS, Methodist, Catholic.... maybe Budhism? Hahahaha!




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hamo

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LOL!! I remember you too!!!!... YEAH EFKS ROCKS!! !!

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tamaiti vaimoso

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Virgin wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

tamaiti vaimoso wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

TAMATI VAIMOSO wrote:

Virgin wrote:

Im a NZ Born Breed. My parents speak samoan to me and my siblings but we speak back in English. Cant really blame us if we talk English as it is what we speak in Schools, Work basically everywhere. We only talk Samoan when we are at church, Sunday School, Aufaipese, Autalavou etc. Im glad our parent took us to loku, if we went somewhere else, We would have definately lost it...




HI VIRGIN HOW YOU DOING.???biggrin.gif


Have you finger Virgin yet bro..??? Tell us the update if you have thanks


hehehe nah uso i wish she playing hard t getbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifand it won't b the finger it be sumthin elsebiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif


Give it to her what she wants bro! have a good one bro for the boys! biggrin.gif


i will bro if she aint gonna give it im force it in her nice and hard.biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifvirgin honey where u at im redi for sum luvin action babybiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifhere kitty kitty come git sum of vaimosobiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

Sole ua koe o mai le au faakiga ulu..LOL..Hello Vaimoso, ready to play???? And anoni, ready to watch.... dont dribble too much, you might need a tali faua... LOL...just joking guys,




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Virgin

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Oh no!!!biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

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TAMAITI VAIMOSO

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VIRGIN A YOU GONNA GIVE VAIMOSO A CHANCE.??biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

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TaiLa

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hamo wrote:

LOL!! I remember you too!!!!... YEAH EFKS ROCKS!! !!






EFKS? Honest to who hahahahaha, which pulega are you in?
I'm from Avondale EFKS hahahaha....

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hamo

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TaiLa wrote:

hamo wrote:

LOL!! I remember you too!!!!... YEAH EFKS ROCKS!! !!






EFKS? Honest to who hahahahaha, which pulega are you in?
I'm from Avondale EFKS hahahaha....




I use to attend Grey Lynn EFKS, pulega a Waitemata i think it is.
Love that church, love those people, miss them all!!

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Blender

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i think us samoans up here in the U.S are surely losing it, for some reasons of school and at work.... when we are at school we tend to speak english all the way out....but its a shame my language is fading away slowly....but to prove your a true samoan stand your root and claim it out, till your ending time arrives.... i know its hard for us teenagers to stand our root on another island thats not claimed as ours... but like what mama and papa always say, aua lava nei fagalo ina le atu nu'u pele sa e tua i ai aso anamua.... so us samoans up here, look for a good trait to put your childrens on track instead of lacking off from the samoan track.....





The culture has nothing to do with the language barrier honey. Our gagana samoa is different to our Traditional cutlure or the faa samoa (ways of things).
In saying so. I think we are totally loosing the gagana now a days. I was born in Samoa but brought up in NZ since I was 3 years of age. I have not been back to samoa but my gagana samoa is strong to a certain extend. The faa samoa way I neglected as I was growing up.

I never liked it and refused to know it too many faalavelave's etc.. However as I became an adult! I realised the importancey of our Culture and how astonishing and fasinating it is to watch and learn the inside out's of our culture. I'm truly blessed and have a different perspective of our Culture and am so proud that no matter where in life we go and try to neglect our culture it will always be with us. Your Mamma and Pappa are truly right. Pe fia palagi pe a we will always go back to our roots. I do hope kids out there don't loose their Gagana Samoa and their Faa Samoa ways. It'll be ashame..


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